Message from @Deus Vult (JESUUUUUUUUS!)

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2018-12-24 15:36:50 UTC  

israel is a state that is founded on an ideological goal and hasent diverted from that toward economics compared to something like the united states. matters more to israel is what you think rather than specific elements of the conversation about what you think in terms of different catagorys of ideology. which seems like a fickle way of describing things but actually portrays a vastly different perspective that they have compared to much of the world. israel isint confused about what its doing, its a country who's goal is to be israel rather than to be the most powerful country in the world (though it believes that being israel makes it powerful). its a theocracy at its heart regardless of what system of election and government it uses, and as a theocracy it has certain ambitions that sets it on a slightly different course than an economically focused country. another american comparison, america believes it should be the best country in the world because they have earned it, israel thinks it should be the best country in the world because it is israel.

2018-12-24 15:39:30 UTC  

so the way america trys to prove how great it is, is through earning its position based on a criteria, that criteria so far has been economical and military because we seem to think those 2 things matter based on our history. many other western countrys see things a similar way but just arnt doing as well as we are. for israel though the best way to be the best country is to be more israel, which also means to be less not israel

2018-12-24 15:41:16 UTC  

Israel has a mostly secular government so while the basis of its existence is theocratical it's not governed that way.

2018-12-24 15:43:11 UTC  

how do you define it being secular exactly? if you are trusting what they are telling you it is i shouldnt need to point out how that is a bad way of basing your expectations. i prefer to look at their actions, i dont think israels actions are that of a secular nation.

2018-12-24 15:44:32 UTC  

Statist = not secular.

2018-12-24 15:45:16 UTC  

There is no such thing as society.

2018-12-24 15:45:44 UTC  

If it was a theocracy then only the religious parties would be in power, everyone would have to follow the bible, all stores wouldn't be allowed to be open on the sabbath, pork would be outlawed, homosexuality outlawed, etc.

2018-12-24 15:46:16 UTC  

Acording to the religious groups Israel isn't even allowed to exist before the messiah comes.

2018-12-24 15:46:24 UTC  

thats a bias assumption based on a stereotype you have of what people who arnt secular would do in a position

2018-12-24 15:47:13 UTC  

It's not because that is what they advocate for. The only reason some of their demands are met is so the right wing government can keep the majority.

2018-12-24 15:47:27 UTC  

Secularism is a spook.

2018-12-24 15:47:49 UTC  

Although currently the government is breaking up because the right doesn't want to follow the religious demands for army exemption.

2018-12-24 15:48:24 UTC  

Separation of church and state is a contradiction.

2018-12-24 15:49:14 UTC  

Milton Friedman is left of Marx.

2018-12-24 15:49:33 UTC  

😱

2018-12-24 15:51:27 UTC  

The most efficient way to exploit workers by extrating the surplus value of their labour is to have a free market in everything but money.

2018-12-24 15:51:59 UTC  

Milton Friedman is the worst kind of socialist.

2018-12-24 18:03:03 UTC  
2018-12-24 18:39:14 UTC  

Regressive revisionism pisses me off

2018-12-24 18:45:14 UTC  

lol, that's the third time that video has been linked today

2018-12-24 19:25:32 UTC  

I wish this were a joke

2018-12-24 19:25:58 UTC  

Can I get an F in the chat for western culture?

2018-12-24 19:27:09 UTC  

*Violent history major rage* F

2018-12-24 19:30:26 UTC  

Does this mean vox is a bunch of holocaust deniers?

2018-12-24 19:30:47 UTC  

*Racks shotgun* I certainly hope not.

2018-12-24 21:06:51 UTC  

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-blood-of-kashmir-part-onea-ramadan-ceasefire Very interesting series of articles on the Daily Beast

2018-12-25 05:07:33 UTC  

another victim of the Patreon shit...
https://youtu.be/6nUz43ZBetM

2018-12-25 05:07:38 UTC  

Level fucking one Tech

2018-12-25 05:13:20 UTC  

noice, Minnesota files suit against Comcast

2018-12-25 10:29:10 UTC  

starts at 3:06

2018-12-25 10:31:59 UTC  
2018-12-25 13:29:26 UTC  

Can't make these people fucking happy

2018-12-25 13:29:50 UTC  

You detain them, they complain. You release them, they complain.

2018-12-25 18:49:30 UTC  

Okay, that sucks. But it's unethically framed in such a way that implies wrongdoing on the agency's part.

2018-12-25 18:49:44 UTC  

From the story itself, all reasonable actions were taken to see to the child's health.

2018-12-25 18:50:16 UTC  

It was only reported for ideological reasons. In any real sense, the incident is not news.

2018-12-25 18:50:33 UTC  

Regarding the use of credit cards to buy guns used in massacres, be aware that the more expectation of examination of electronic transactions is regulated, more hurdles for currencies that cannot reliably we traced back to an individual. The term "follow the money" is well known to both journalists and the governments. There is little chance the latter to reduce their ability to follow the money. Our post 9/11 anti-terrorist legislation pretty much mandates tracability.