hmm

seems like CNN updated this article without telling people because the title seems slightly different

didn't Tim share something that tracks news edits?

newsdiffs

excellent, let me check to see if this article has been changed

actually, I found it on wayback machine

nope, it says the same thing

let's see if newsdiff says anything

no change log. huh

in any case

https://web.archive.org/web/20180909183146/https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/09/tennis/serena-williams-fine-us-open/index.html this is the article in question

both my girlfriend and I agree the title is worded to make it sound like Williams was fined _because_ she lost

does it seem that way to you?

nope

Nah, it says she was fined for violations. It just says those violations were during the game which she lost.

^

Nah, dosent look like she was fined cause she lost

"Serena Williams is fined $17,000 for violations during her US Open loss"

doesn't sound like she was fined for losing. Just that she committed violations during her match that ended up being her loss.

there is not even a way i can rewrite that would read she was fined for losing. Unless it straight up read "She was fined 17,000 in violations for us open loss"

the "during" is what really makes the difference because it means the fines happened before it was a loss, therefore cannot be because she lost.

i mean her first violation (the coaching) did not lea dto ther loss

her smashing her racket did

and the bithcin out hte ref was teh cherry on the cake

either way, the fines where not because she lost and the title doesn't make it sound like that.

yeah she just lost as a consequence of them. well breakign the racket specifically

i mean its well known u get fined for those offences but yeah exactly it should be more clear

She most likely did those things because she was already losing badly. Same as when she threatened to force a ball down that line judge's throat 10 years ago. She was losing and got a minor penalty, so she threw a tantrum.

yeah bringing sexism into it jsut makes her look bad. lol had to fact check the CBC radios reporting on it for my mom cuz they left out a few important details like that her coach admitted to it to stop my mom from yelling at the radio XD

She never was fined for winning but let’s be honest. If you’re fined $17,000 USD after winning $1,800,000
I don’t think you’d care

For not winning *

*sigh* A friend of mine just unironically made the Jet Fuel Doesn't Melt Steel Beams argument...

Jet fuel does not in fact melt steel beams

But it does make it very soft and malleable

mmhmm

Would you look at that?

Yeah jet fuel just made them weak. It didn’t melt them 🤷‍♂️

Is this Reaaaaally gonna happen

Hahahaha

of course it would

That's the point.