a bad way to argue.

Well, maybe not a bad way, because it does work...

It's the bandwagon effect.

You also will notice they like to say the US is "behind" Europe on whatever issue they care about (like 'hate speech')

Yep- US is so much behind Europe when it comes to suppression of free speach. You all should get your shit together and finally sentence someone for joke, without looking at context. Come on US- it isnt that hard

On the social level we aren't really all that far behind. We fire and destroy people because of their thoughts or just our thoughts we project onto their words.

Yes, we fire and destroy people's reputations, either for fun or profit or for politics--you can even hire people to do that crap to you. Also our civil courts, especially in family law, and our child protective services, are Orwellian.

someone needs to remind her she allready tried that

someone get her Alzheimer pills

can't we impeach Maxine?

or put her in a nursing home, where she belongs?

together with Nancy Pelosi

there should be term limits for all positions in gobt

even cops

You'd run out of cops

thought I'd share this article since Tim did a video about SErena Williams today

actually

hmm

seems like CNN updated this article without telling people because the title seems slightly different

didn't Tim share something that tracks news edits?

newsdiffs

excellent, let me check to see if this article has been changed

actually, I found it on wayback machine

nope, it says the same thing

let's see if newsdiff says anything

no change log. huh

in any case

https://web.archive.org/web/20180909183146/https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/09/tennis/serena-williams-fine-us-open/index.html this is the article in question

both my girlfriend and I agree the title is worded to make it sound like Williams was fined _because_ she lost

does it seem that way to you?

nope

Nah, it says she was fined for violations. It just says those violations were during the game which she lost.

^

Nah, dosent look like she was fined cause she lost

"Serena Williams is fined $17,000 for violations during her US Open loss"

doesn't sound like she was fined for losing. Just that she committed violations during her match that ended up being her loss.

there is not even a way i can rewrite that would read she was fined for losing. Unless it straight up read "She was fined 17,000 in violations for us open loss"

the "during" is what really makes the difference because it means the fines happened before it was a loss, therefore cannot be because she lost.

i mean her first violation (the coaching) did not lea dto ther loss

her smashing her racket did

and the bithcin out hte ref was teh cherry on the cake