I get its populism and all but still

Makes me think of the Reform Party

National liberalism aka civic nationalism

Just watched Tim's vid on hillary... is it just me or is this a "Let them eat Cake" moment?

africa does not exist

The weird thing is I agree with Hilary seeing Europe need's to get it's act together.......on the other hand she was a high profile Senator in the 00's and her and Bush Jr were in a position to slam the open borders crowd down and also never let the white nationalism crowd bubble up if they had passed some fair centrist common sense immigration reform. Like her delivering that message to europe is like Chris Christie telling people eat your veges ie a bad messenger even if the message might be reasonable

Actually that's not the issue at all

I told people about this and they called it fake news

Hillary supporters literally denying it

She just wet her finger, stuck it up in the air, and gauged which way the wind was blowing. She has no guiding beliefs or convictions other than her divine right to power.

Clinton: lets stop populism by adopting populist policies!

I don't think she cares about stopping populism so much as she cares about having an avenue to power. She doesn't think the populists have a point, or that the right thing to do is to address the concerns of the people. She just thinks that populists are between her and power so they need to be defeated.

I agree on your assessment of her motivations. However I believe my previous statement still reflects her public position.

At least the true monarchies had divinely granted responsibilities along with their rights. Clinton has only entitlement, no duties she recognizes.

I think it is telling that she's testing this by speaking about Europe's problem while in Europe. It permits plausible deniability if it were to blow up. "Oh, of *course* I wasn't referring to the US situation. Why would you ever think that!"

Every time Clinton's "position" on an issue comes up, I think of Hitchens, and Superpredators, and her stance on Same-Sex Marriage

Clinton supported the wall
before she opposed it

at the end of the day, the Clintons are driven by maximizing the power of their dynasty
they've thrown everyone and everything under the bus in the process

including the Democratic party

now...
if you are willing to throw principles and party to the wolves in your blind pursuit of power,
why not democracy itself, eh?

Well, I will agree with you now. But in the late 1980's Bill Clinton was a major player in the "third way" movement within the Democratic Party after some real humdinger losses in 1984 and 1988. I think back then there were real convictions. Now, not so much.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/11/22/howard_dean_people_are_beginning_to_understand_that_trump_does_not_represent_american_values.html

> I think people are beginning to understand that Trump does not represent American values.
> He doesn’t even really represent the values of most people who voted for him.
> And so, I think people don’t actually really consider Trump a legitimate president.
...
> *He was obviously elected and all this business*, but he does not represent American values.

an "obviously elected" President
is not legitimate
because he does not represent the values of the Clinton machine

Having been in my 20's in the 1990's and very aware of events, Bill Clinton really was a bit of a counter-revolutionary in a Democratic Party that had been in the thrall of their left side since Carter's loss in 1980.

---> you couldn't make this stuff up - it's like Amazon deleting Orwell's 1984 from everyone's Kindle

^When you marinated for such a long time in self-righteousness, that you actually convinced yourself you are the living embodiment of american values.

indeed

"elected *and all this business*"
^ note the dismissive tone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBHSTPJlo4k

him, in a near future

the European Union is a shitshow

Verhofstadt is correct tho

the only thing standing in his way for his totalitarian utopia to function

I recognized that 20 years ago, or more,
when a fish monger selling fish in London
measured in pounds and ounces
was made a criminal for that heinous act

is all these pesky countries refusing to transfer all their power to him

indeed

Grosser Deutchland would be complete after the transfer

Just like before

i only see this end in conflict

the question is not if

the question is when and what kind of conflict