Message from @RedOblivion

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2018-12-06 19:13:05 UTC  

How so, halfthink?

2018-12-06 19:13:11 UTC  

Why are monarchies superior?

2018-12-06 19:13:20 UTC  

Good luck kicking people out when they single handedly control the military

2018-12-06 19:13:32 UTC  

If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned

2018-12-06 19:13:33 UTC  

Easier still

2018-12-06 19:13:52 UTC  

How

2018-12-06 19:13:54 UTC  

So

2018-12-06 19:13:55 UTC  

I

2018-12-06 19:13:56 UTC  

Want

2018-12-06 19:13:57 UTC  

To

2018-12-06 19:13:59 UTC  

Believe

2018-12-06 19:14:00 UTC  

You

2018-12-06 19:14:01 UTC  

But

2018-12-06 19:14:02 UTC  

I

2018-12-06 19:14:03 UTC  

Need

2018-12-06 19:14:04 UTC  

A

2018-12-06 19:14:07 UTC  

REASON

2018-12-06 19:14:12 UTC  

explain the point

2018-12-06 19:14:21 UTC  

For democracy you have to change the ideological bedrock

2018-12-06 19:14:39 UTC  
2018-12-06 19:15:04 UTC  

I’m on your fucking side, I just want to make sure you people can raise actual points when you’re in a serious discussion

2018-12-06 19:16:06 UTC  

@halfthink You know any philosophers that argued for democracy?

2018-12-06 19:16:08 UTC  

If I tried to defend monarchy, I would say that it is a better representation of societal structures and can provide superior mechanisms for selecting a superior leader.

2018-12-06 19:16:23 UTC  

Hobbes

2018-12-06 19:16:36 UTC  

The ur-social unit is the family, with the father at the helm, making decisions for the unit and directing it.

2018-12-06 19:16:38 UTC  

Thomas Hobbes was very much in favor of autocratic governments

2018-12-06 19:16:53 UTC  

As social units grow in size, there still must remain a singular unit at the head, directing it.

2018-12-06 19:17:21 UTC  

This force leads the individuals which comprises the unit, but does not draw authority from it, anymore than a father draws authority from his children.

2018-12-06 19:17:25 UTC  

Rousseau, I think, was a fan of democracy.

2018-12-06 19:17:39 UTC  

Kinda

2018-12-06 19:17:57 UTC  

on small scales

2018-12-06 19:19:11 UTC  

> If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned
lmao
US citizens pay tax on global income, whether connected to US or not
the only other country that taxes the slaves globally is the Philippines, iirc

2018-12-06 19:19:34 UTC  

there is, indeed, a case to be made that we are publicly owned slaves

2018-12-06 19:19:43 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-06 19:19:51 UTC  

Not the muh wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:20:32 UTC  

in most cases, the tax liability applies only within a geographic jurisdiction

2018-12-06 19:20:45 UTC  

for US and PH citizens, the liability attaches to the person

2018-12-06 19:20:50 UTC  

yeah, that's a problem

2018-12-06 19:22:22 UTC  

that is not the wage slave argument at all

2018-12-06 19:22:47 UTC  

i wouldnt mind being a slave as long as i got food and a place to sleep its not like thats much different from what some people have nowadays

2018-12-06 19:22:53 UTC  

citizen = serf