Message from @RedOblivion

Discord ID: 520316991559565312


2018-12-06 19:09:41 UTC  

If the personality fails, the system fails

2018-12-06 19:09:43 UTC  

Yeah, monarchy involves way less bloodshed, and instability

2018-12-06 19:10:28 UTC  

Look, I would prefer to live in a monarchy myself, I would be Bismarck if I had the chance

2018-12-06 19:10:30 UTC  

yeah bye im way to not sober for this

2018-12-06 19:10:52 UTC  

But democracies do have inherent advantages over autocracies

2018-12-06 19:11:01 UTC  

none

2018-12-06 19:11:10 UTC  

literally none

2018-12-06 19:11:26 UTC  

Are you saying it just to say it or do you have an actual rebuke of any point I have to say?

2018-12-06 19:11:35 UTC  

Because I want to believe you but I have no reason to

2018-12-06 19:12:08 UTC  

I'm an anarchist, but monarchies are infinitely superior to democracy

2018-12-06 19:12:57 UTC  

Good luck voting people out lol

2018-12-06 19:13:05 UTC  

How so, halfthink?

2018-12-06 19:13:11 UTC  

Why are monarchies superior?

2018-12-06 19:13:20 UTC  

Good luck kicking people out when they single handedly control the military

2018-12-06 19:13:32 UTC  

If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned

2018-12-06 19:13:33 UTC  

Easier still

2018-12-06 19:13:52 UTC  

How

2018-12-06 19:13:54 UTC  

So

2018-12-06 19:13:55 UTC  

I

2018-12-06 19:13:56 UTC  

Want

2018-12-06 19:13:57 UTC  

To

2018-12-06 19:13:59 UTC  

Believe

2018-12-06 19:14:00 UTC  

You

2018-12-06 19:14:01 UTC  

But

2018-12-06 19:14:02 UTC  

I

2018-12-06 19:14:03 UTC  

Need

2018-12-06 19:14:04 UTC  

A

2018-12-06 19:14:07 UTC  

REASON

2018-12-06 19:14:12 UTC  

explain the point

2018-12-06 19:14:21 UTC  

For democracy you have to change the ideological bedrock

2018-12-06 19:14:39 UTC  
2018-12-06 19:15:04 UTC  

I’m on your fucking side, I just want to make sure you people can raise actual points when you’re in a serious discussion

2018-12-06 19:16:06 UTC  

@halfthink You know any philosophers that argued for democracy?

2018-12-06 19:16:08 UTC  

If I tried to defend monarchy, I would say that it is a better representation of societal structures and can provide superior mechanisms for selecting a superior leader.

2018-12-06 19:16:23 UTC  

Hobbes

2018-12-06 19:16:36 UTC  

The ur-social unit is the family, with the father at the helm, making decisions for the unit and directing it.

2018-12-06 19:16:38 UTC  

Thomas Hobbes was very much in favor of autocratic governments

2018-12-06 19:16:53 UTC  

As social units grow in size, there still must remain a singular unit at the head, directing it.

2018-12-06 19:17:21 UTC  

This force leads the individuals which comprises the unit, but does not draw authority from it, anymore than a father draws authority from his children.

2018-12-06 19:17:25 UTC  

Rousseau, I think, was a fan of democracy.

2018-12-06 19:17:39 UTC  

Kinda