Message from @Arch-Fiend
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@Poptarts well either i misunderstood your original argument or it seems like youve changed your argument; before in the water example you were arguing for absolute ownership, but now seem to agree that there should be limits in some cases. the main difference seems to be that you are for private governance vs what we have today. one could argue that a democratic govt is also built on "contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually" though.
Well i think ukip does not know what it stands for atm
iirc Sargon and Dankula want to push for changes to UKIP
So they have chance to influence it to a degree
which may be easier if they are having identity issues anyway
yea
From what I understand, the goal with all of them joining UKIP was a soft coup
Move towards internet freedoms is great news
Rather than founding their own party
And ukip never cared for those before
yea
i think that sargon is mostly interested in coopting ukip for his own goals consitering liberalistism, justice democrats, and kekistan didint go his way
did you watch the interview sargon just released?
I did watch part of it
Its cheaper to coopt a pre-existing party than to create a new one
thats true
One could argue Democratic Socialists are attempting to Coopt the Democrats
Baten would never get similar interview from anyone else
Thats why i say sargon has helped ukip already
One could argue, but the Democrats seem to be co-opting the DSA's policies already
but i beleive anyone whos not happy with sargon being in ukip is justified if at best he changes the party into his own ideal rather than what people who origenally joined ukip wanted it to be
@vlnc.co absolute ownership as the baseline, but any agreement can be negotiated with anybody with any contracts to change that .... the point is that i am arguing for explicit consent for anything property related
Thats true the Dems might be doing it to them moreso
ooo I was kinda sorta not really but kinda mentioned in tim's new video 😛
i dont think ukip is the kind of party that likes the methods of "success by any means nessicary"
under the label "people on my discord" 😛
Dems are lost
no one who makes you pay to become a member would be
Rn in gb ukip has unique chance to claim back to beeing 3rd most influential party
Because of how brexit is going
i mean, if i open up a water store with newly purified water from my innovative inventions..... and i want to sell the water.... im not goign to be like... NOPE I OWN THE WATER .... I AM ABSOLUTE OWNER
But they need to get their message out
And possibly even organize some demonstrations
Sargon and his band could play impprtant role in all of this
Dems will stay relevant but they are pushing further left jsut as the Repubs did when the Tea Party essentially took over
the limits need to be stipulated and consented to in order for it to be a legitimate limit on ownerships.... obvious ppl can be co-owners of private property
It could also end as nothing
Main reason i want to have a Moderate Party lol
As i said its all open
teh democrat socialist american workers party
tbh I wish Sargon and Co luck