"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view

His saltyness shows towards the end

https://www.youtube.com/user/misesmedia/search?query=private+government+police+security

well guess the subject has moved on! lol gg

Its the influencer part which matter not the number of new memebers

Ukip is ignored by mainstream media

And they need to get their message to ppl if they want to get their numbers back

Having ppl like sorgon and others shill for them is great way

New members help, but I agree that having people with large social media followings in their ranks is probably the larger boon

gotta get awareness up numbers come second

Like sargon just released hour long interview with baten and while i could object to lots of things there and it had terrible sound quality

people like sargon and dankula dont actually agree with most things ukip is about

It can be shared now

though pjw might

@Poptarts well either i misunderstood your original argument or it seems like youve changed your argument; before in the water example you were arguing for absolute ownership, but now seem to agree that there should be limits in some cases. the main difference seems to be that you are for private governance vs what we have today. one could argue that a democratic govt is also built on "contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually" though.

Well i think ukip does not know what it stands for atm

iirc Sargon and Dankula want to push for changes to UKIP

So they have chance to influence it to a degree

which may be easier if they are having identity issues anyway

yea

From what I understand, the goal with all of them joining UKIP was a soft coup

Move towards internet freedoms is great news

Rather than founding their own party

And ukip never cared for those before

yea

i think that sargon is mostly interested in coopting ukip for his own goals consitering liberalistism, justice democrats, and kekistan didint go his way

did you watch the interview sargon just released?

I did watch part of it

Its cheaper to coopt a pre-existing party than to create a new one

thats true

One could argue Democratic Socialists are attempting to Coopt the Democrats

Baten would never get similar interview from anyone else

Thats why i say sargon has helped ukip already

One could argue, but the Democrats seem to be co-opting the DSA's policies already

but i beleive anyone whos not happy with sargon being in ukip is justified if at best he changes the party into his own ideal rather than what people who origenally joined ukip wanted it to be

@vlnc.co absolute ownership as the baseline, but any agreement can be negotiated with anybody with any contracts to change that .... the point is that i am arguing for explicit consent for anything property related

Thats true the Dems might be doing it to them moreso

ooo I was kinda sorta not really but kinda mentioned in tim's new video 😛

i dont think ukip is the kind of party that likes the methods of "success by any means nessicary"

under the label "people on my discord" 😛

Dems are lost