Message from @Lagomaster24
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@Arch-Fiend that was very simplistic view
i will take armies of Dale Brown clones over modern police thuggary manufactoring vicitimless crimes any day!
I think tl dr had some personal conflict with sargon before
"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view
His saltyness shows towards the end
well guess the subject has moved on! lol gg
Its the influencer part which matter not the number of new memebers
Ukip is ignored by mainstream media
And they need to get their message to ppl if they want to get their numbers back
Having ppl like sorgon and others shill for them is great way
New members help, but I agree that having people with large social media followings in their ranks is probably the larger boon
gotta get awareness up numbers come second
Like sargon just released hour long interview with baten and while i could object to lots of things there and it had terrible sound quality
people like sargon and dankula dont actually agree with most things ukip is about
It can be shared now
though pjw might
@Poptarts well either i misunderstood your original argument or it seems like youve changed your argument; before in the water example you were arguing for absolute ownership, but now seem to agree that there should be limits in some cases. the main difference seems to be that you are for private governance vs what we have today. one could argue that a democratic govt is also built on "contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually" though.
Well i think ukip does not know what it stands for atm
So they have chance to influence it to a degree
which may be easier if they are having identity issues anyway
yea
From what I understand, the goal with all of them joining UKIP was a soft coup
Move towards internet freedoms is great news
Rather than founding their own party
And ukip never cared for those before
yea
i think that sargon is mostly interested in coopting ukip for his own goals consitering liberalistism, justice democrats, and kekistan didint go his way
did you watch the interview sargon just released?
I did watch part of it
Its cheaper to coopt a pre-existing party than to create a new one
thats true
One could argue Democratic Socialists are attempting to Coopt the Democrats
Baten would never get similar interview from anyone else
Thats why i say sargon has helped ukip already
One could argue, but the Democrats seem to be co-opting the DSA's policies already
but i beleive anyone whos not happy with sargon being in ukip is justified if at best he changes the party into his own ideal rather than what people who origenally joined ukip wanted it to be
@vlnc.co absolute ownership as the baseline, but any agreement can be negotiated with anybody with any contracts to change that .... the point is that i am arguing for explicit consent for anything property related
Thats true the Dems might be doing it to them moreso