Message from @Lagomaster24

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2018-07-06 22:46:48 UTC  

Its cheaper to coopt a pre-existing party than to create a new one

2018-07-06 22:46:58 UTC  

thats true

2018-07-06 22:47:12 UTC  

One could argue Democratic Socialists are attempting to Coopt the Democrats

2018-07-06 22:47:15 UTC  

Baten would never get similar interview from anyone else

2018-07-06 22:47:35 UTC  

Thats why i say sargon has helped ukip already

2018-07-06 22:47:48 UTC  

One could argue, but the Democrats seem to be co-opting the DSA's policies already

2018-07-06 22:47:49 UTC  

but i beleive anyone whos not happy with sargon being in ukip is justified if at best he changes the party into his own ideal rather than what people who origenally joined ukip wanted it to be

2018-07-06 22:48:26 UTC  

@vlnc.co absolute ownership as the baseline, but any agreement can be negotiated with anybody with any contracts to change that .... the point is that i am arguing for explicit consent for anything property related

2018-07-06 22:48:43 UTC  

Thats true the Dems might be doing it to them moreso

2018-07-06 22:48:43 UTC  

ooo I was kinda sorta not really but kinda mentioned in tim's new video 😛

2018-07-06 22:48:54 UTC  

i dont think ukip is the kind of party that likes the methods of "success by any means nessicary"

2018-07-06 22:49:02 UTC  

under the label "people on my discord" 😛

2018-07-06 22:49:06 UTC  

Dems are lost

2018-07-06 22:49:10 UTC  

no one who makes you pay to become a member would be

2018-07-06 22:49:10 UTC  

Rn in gb ukip has unique chance to claim back to beeing 3rd most influential party

2018-07-06 22:49:23 UTC  

Because of how brexit is going

2018-07-06 22:49:24 UTC  

i mean, if i open up a water store with newly purified water from my innovative inventions..... and i want to sell the water.... im not goign to be like... NOPE I OWN THE WATER .... I AM ABSOLUTE OWNER

2018-07-06 22:49:36 UTC  

But they need to get their message out

2018-07-06 22:49:55 UTC  

And possibly even organize some demonstrations

2018-07-06 22:50:26 UTC  

Sargon and his band could play impprtant role in all of this

2018-07-06 22:50:27 UTC  

Dems will stay relevant but they are pushing further left jsut as the Repubs did when the Tea Party essentially took over

2018-07-06 22:50:33 UTC  

the limits need to be stipulated and consented to in order for it to be a legitimate limit on ownerships.... obvious ppl can be co-owners of private property

2018-07-06 22:50:45 UTC  

It could also end as nothing

2018-07-06 22:50:49 UTC  

Main reason i want to have a Moderate Party lol

2018-07-06 22:50:52 UTC  

As i said its all open

2018-07-06 22:51:04 UTC  

teh democrat socialist american workers party

2018-07-06 22:51:17 UTC  

tbh I wish Sargon and Co luck

2018-07-06 22:51:18 UTC  

I think we should all get together to found the Authoritarian party (just because the Libertarian Party already exists)

2018-07-06 22:51:23 UTC  

demsoc of oceana

2018-07-06 22:51:32 UTC  

Im just glad they are getting into the thick of it now

2018-07-06 22:51:43 UTC  

no though... democracy is just mob rule..... ochlocracy .. it does not depend on your consent

2018-07-06 22:51:47 UTC  

Dont remind me of the 1984 parallels lol

2018-07-06 22:51:49 UTC  

@Poptarts right but in a micro private governance, what if there is a tribe that lives downstream that also has water tech but your tribe is polluting that stream with your tech? some problems may indeed be better resolved in a micro govt with greater consensus and consent, but some decisions have macro-effects. such as pollution

2018-07-06 22:52:01 UTC  

what in the fuck is an ochlocracy

2018-07-06 22:52:04 UTC  

they already got the logo

2018-07-06 22:52:10 UTC  

And any Authoritarian party candidate for President should run "for Dictator"

2018-07-06 22:52:19 UTC  

I know they do it creeps me out

2018-07-06 22:52:27 UTC  

Monarchy

2018-07-06 22:52:30 UTC  

lel

2018-07-06 22:52:31 UTC  

I dont think people run for "dictator" 😛

2018-07-06 22:52:40 UTC  

they just take it