This is a good theory

And actually likely

Steam was smart they were censorship fuck that we aint spending money on dat shit

i like to think they were just lazy

"we've been trying to meet your demands and you keep demanding more? fuck this. we're tired of getting caught in the cross-hairs for your crusades. We need to get back to not making games."

Think about it this way if a company like blizzard and wotc think they will make money policing what people think and kick them off for “toxic” behavior and they are realizing that they are losing money doing this ....

@Grenade123 exactly

what does valve even do anymore

besides make their first game in years be more bs trading card style games.

with like 0 effort

You give them a finger and they want the whole fist up thier ass

I mean, sure, I can appreciate the no censorship angle, but could also mean a cover up of their inadequecies in moderating the quality of entries.

If Discord was built into Steam...

man, that'd be pretty great.

better than the crappier chat function Valve just thrust upon us...

discord should go nowheres near steam

They are shady af

You mean with the greenlight stuff?

Discord is the shady one

Check what they did to the FFXIV server i believe it was

Sec ill get a link

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/91k548/our_subreddit_lost_partner_status_due_to_a_tos/

Valve is probably going to outright buy Discord, assuming they have the liquid cash to do so.

Gaben will just have a "Mid-midsummer-autumn" sale, and he'll have the liquid cash

Tbh the only solution to the issues Discord presents is hosting your own shit

yes

I wish there was like a teamspeak with better ui and chat

I wish Mumble had full IRC integration

It's only 1way

Yeah mumble has the same issue, the ui and chat are godawful

At least last time I tried it

Mumble just has too many options if you don't know what you're looking for. Otherwise I don't mind it

But it has a plugin that dumps chat messages to IRC but it doesn't pick up from IRC as well or something

Which sucks because if you could do everything through mumble that would be *perfect*

Discord, but decentralized, then?

Part of the problem with Ventrilo and TeamSpeak 2 were that you could only be in one server at a time.

discord but FOSS preferably

and yeah decentralized

Slack has seperate logins for each server you connect to

I think theres another program/protocall called Riot that works like that as well

Slack is still hosted first party though