Check what they did to the FFXIV server i believe it was

Sec ill get a link

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/91k548/our_subreddit_lost_partner_status_due_to_a_tos/

Valve is probably going to outright buy Discord, assuming they have the liquid cash to do so.

Gaben will just have a "Mid-midsummer-autumn" sale, and he'll have the liquid cash

Tbh the only solution to the issues Discord presents is hosting your own shit

yes

I wish there was like a teamspeak with better ui and chat

I wish Mumble had full IRC integration

It's only 1way

Yeah mumble has the same issue, the ui and chat are godawful

At least last time I tried it

Mumble just has too many options if you don't know what you're looking for. Otherwise I don't mind it

But it has a plugin that dumps chat messages to IRC but it doesn't pick up from IRC as well or something

Which sucks because if you could do everything through mumble that would be *perfect*

Discord, but decentralized, then?

Part of the problem with Ventrilo and TeamSpeak 2 were that you could only be in one server at a time.

discord but FOSS preferably

and yeah decentralized

Slack has seperate logins for each server you connect to

I think theres another program/protocall called Riot that works like that as well

Slack is still hosted first party though

I believe theres an enterprise version that can be hosted internally

Rocket.Chat can be hosted locally as well

right and rocket.chat allows multiple servers as well right?

I guess thats a better example

Possibly? I haven't looked into it much yet. Have a partial install done on CentOS but ran into nginx fuckery

All thats missing is voice and maybe permission system? (I havent lookes at rocket.chat in depth yet)

The mobile app for it is suprisingly smooth

Wat aboot telegram and groupme ?

Did trudeau grow some balls ? I didnt know he had any

Yeah he refused to apologize

Isn't telegram compromised?

Is it ? @Beemann

Never heard of groupme and don't use telegram, but to my understanding its text only right

I just googled seems so but articles are a few months old

I think you can do voice in telegram

Groupme is text only i believe i just checked

In the optimal discord alternative I would love to see
```
* solid permission system
* text and voice chat rooms
* multiple (but decentralized) servers you can be connected to at once
* FOSS (not necessarilly required but big plus)
```
There's quite a few programs that tick some of these boxes but afaik none that tick all yet

Dont forget encrypted chats