Sup bois. Found this on r/exredpill. I'm down for this. I've just started doing day game but as me.... No PUA shit just standard direct day game. If this discord remains active and fat we could start where mystery and style left off with some more honest shit. You won't convert red pillers if you've not much to offer. They crave juicy field reports. One that sucked me in was a guy talking about his 'plate' when wiping off his jizz off her chest she asked 'I wonder if counselling will help with my husband'.

my main concern is I have nothing to offer these guys. i have very little experience, I am a beta chode that's finally growing some balls. I have nothing juicy to convince them

As of now the red pill has 266k subscribers. If you want to make a real difference I think lilly on the exredpill post has a point. To make something to counter it. i wonder if infield day game on a youtube channel would help? Most of the redpill guys I imagine are just sat indoors seething with approach anxiety/social anxiety induced rage.

As a side I'm a massive nerd. I've constructed a spreadsheet that I'm filling in with my progression with girls. Hoping it will give some 'stats' for the cause

Would be decent to speak to some guys who have had the same experience as me. I'm UK based, what times are you bois on? I'm guessing you're all across the pond?

@IntAnon I can get behind this 'We need to teach young men that while they should be alpha, they should also be smart and look to their ancestors.'. If we promote growing some big old balls with a backbone and stay true to your morals I think that's a concept that can easily be sold. Hardcore self development too.

Also if anyone wants to play video games hit me up. Down for dota players.

yeah I get you man. 'tank' is my preferred adjective

'absolute unit'

Trouble is though is it is a direct indicator of improvement. BUT I know what you mean. The moment you hit a drought with girls your self esteem/happiness goes down

What do you mean my man?

Weak friendships? If so, I'm in the same boat. Once uni ends, my social circle will crumble

Bro I'd chat but I can't go on the mic. Small house problems xD You about tomorrow?

Quick question, are you UK based?

I am.

aaah ok bro. 😄

Briefly, what's your story then?

with trp

I'm sensing that you've been hurt by friends and girls?

* I don't want to pry too much

only say what you want 😄

Appreciate the openness. Similar story to me. Fat nerd smashing video games up until uni. Got really lonely and drowned myself in trans fat, porn and my own jizz at uni. Found the red pill after a string of rejections that stung like a bitch. Now I'm leaving it

I can relate

Alright man. We'll chat tomorrow? Take it easy mate.

I'll be on 11am-5pm uk time

catch you later mate

@Rarespawn | (213) Problem we have is this generation is struggling. dudes and girls. Sex rates are falling as the top plough through who ever they want leaving the average joes single as fook. 266k subs to r/redpill alone. How do you effectively combat that?

@-stupidface- You've nailed it. Ironically giving up your morals to chase tail is something a 'beta' would do

My only concern is you're up against a multinational industry almost. Depends on your goals. Convert as many as possible or just a few

Just got some guy on r/dating advice

They just want to be shown a little bit of support and encouragement. That they will be rejected but it's ok as some random internet stranger understands them and told them to keep going.

True, hand't thought of it as a tactic to convince. Trouble is they confirm the biases that their user base already has through being an insecure, spineless shy guy.

I think some aspects of game are real and these guys could do with learning it eye contact, tonality, kino ect. The key, and the hard core pua's and trp forget that it all has to be done in your own way which echos what @Donut Steel Tendies just said

The good thing with 'game' is it takes more of the sting out of rejection. If a sad emerging incel leaves his sess pit and gets hit with 10 rejections fuck that's going to crush him

Exactly

100% agree. What trp has over other subs is it drives those aspects home harder. Which I think is more 'truthful'. Some of the guys on r/dating need to do some motherfucking work

I've been rejected a shit tonne. In person, over text, in public. Stood up all that shit. It didn't do me any good xD I haven't cried for 10 years. I nearly cried on the bus on the way home after a rejection that stung. Then I found trp.

I think the power dynamic shifts at the age of ~30 though.

As for hunting, you hunt for great women that you like. If you hit it off enough that's when it becomes more serious.

only human

What is important is that you find what makes you sad and, isolate the problem and deal with it

100% I would argue the power dynamic on online dating makes it easier for women to hack rejection. But that is pointless 'muh gendah has it worse'

Time to get social

You know what bois. I've posted on r/nice guys and shit before trying to help some dudes out. It stings to hear this stuff. There's dudes struggling in silence all over. You only hear of it online.

This is why trp appeals. Appeals to the hurt. Bullshit like the blue pill and r/nice guys makes me seath. Ripping into all these hurt guys.

What hobbies do you have @Donut Steel Tendies

There's a couple options you have.

Societies
Day game
night game
Clubs
colunterring

*volunteering

niiiiice, man I love cars too

saving up for a fiesta st as we speak

solid upgrade. Are you talking remap/turbo/induction kit/ exhaust system ect.?

yeah bucket seats all the way

what vdeo games are you into?

Nice

For the possy xD

*poosy

needs a spoiler ;P

Hard concept to internalise. Most motherfuckers want a girl. Only natural. Getting a girl is the end goal, direct proxy of improvement

I got to go bois and revise, catch you later

I think his issues lie beyond the red pill

yin and yang xD

'every force has an equal and opposite force'

If you read their posts they don't actually advocate the hardcore aspects of trp

Which ironically is a red pill concept.

Girls fall for the asshole and think they can change him. Everyone sees it. You could argue Maria is doing the same thing.

There she is in tears, opening up her rawest inner secret and he ignores it and spreads shit. She ends up on discord for what? To change him?

I don't know the relationship, I don't know much. I'm just a sad bastard nerd who doesn't know love. But as an outsider that is what I see.

@Donut Steel Tendies Same bro

my head is all over the place xD

Uni stress never helps

@Maria Matthew no worries. You're dealing with some weird ass shit for a 20 year old xD

No one leaves red pill insecurities though

shit will be eating at his mind

I was red pill. Not 100% has washed away

You don't just simply swallow the pill

yeah skeptical is a good way of putting it.

Both

you don't join the red pill if you have good mental; health

You know what I'm thinking now? the red pill would say 'look at all these white knight beta chodes flocking to help out/be an emotional tampon with a girl like emotional tampons xD Red pill always nags away

Are we white knighting?

@Maria Matthew Are we white knighting? Are we now your emotional tampon?

Good to hear man

I've bridged the gap to normalhood with oldschool PUA

day game

Cool. See. The red pill shit is always there.

I think if we are going to do this, we need to encourage healthy personal development within the group

Does anyone have a working mic?

1 year

I guarantee we all have the same story

lonely, shy, depressed, virgins/had rough breakups, no success with girls

Always question stuff

lifting, diet, mindfulness ect. They have some good shit. but the undertones are there.

Do you have a mic bro?

I'm nursing rsi from submitting my masters xD

repetitive strain injury. I also have a bad shoulder from playing too many video games 3 years ago. It's flared up.

gender @-stupidface- ?

interesting how you ended up here if a dude

So before I go here's my thoughts so far.

Do we have any experience/success to draw useful advice for people? I don't. I lost 40lbs of fat so I guess that's something i can help with.

We should encourage our own personal development as we understand where everyone comes from. Free from the scoulding BS of r/the blue pill and r/nice guys

Cheers @Maria Matthew

Mixed in with some game and kino and you're sorted

So what's your plan @Maria Matthew regarding this?

EXACTLY

The discord group