Ok I'll check it, thanks !

I agree. Have you ever been a red pill member ?

Hi guys,
I have been dating this guy that I met in my first year of university since December 2016. I knew he had some strong opinions about manhood and women and I also knew he was very intelligent ( writing a lot for himself, online, very interesting views for a guy his age …) . I bonded with him, I guess because we understood each other. We were the two “gifted kids”, interesting ourselves to things that were supposed to be for “ more mature people” I thought he was just sharing random tips and opinions on what I discovered to be The Red Pill. I didn’t bother much until I found that he had a few books picturing women as those evil creatures who completely lack self-control and are just craving money and attention. For all the guys out here who may find themselves a bit lost in this whole Redpill BS, I am turning 20 years old, I am a woman and without bragging, I am considered attractive and I can tell you that women, ARE NOT searching for those kind of things. The Red Pill manipulates, twists and simplifies things. Yes, a woman prefers a man in shape, because that demonstrates that he can take care of himself and of her. Yes, women need the attention of a man, a lot of attention, to feel love, protected and taken care of. Women also tend to search a man with positive ambition ( not a money making machine without ethics), with a vision and who is hard-working and that’s just normal.
To sum up, I met this guy who is a wonderful person but who was lost into this RedPill shit. Once who got to know a bit more each other and we started dating, I told him very explicitly : “ Don’t try to touch me in a sexual manner because I need way more time”. He agreed but he kept pushing. Trying to burry his head in my cleavage, trying to touch me in other ways, grabbing me everywhere. I kept telling him to stop doing that, that I felt very uncomfortable. I told him more than 100th times.

One day, he got mad at me and told me : “ You’re not normal, why don’t you ever want to do anything fun with me ?”. There, I exploded. I started crying and explaining that I got raped a few years ago ( no not the average “ I got raped at a college party at least I think so”). He looked compassionate and I told him to keep it secret. And guess what, not only did he continue to grab me everywhere and pressure me (and it felt like a terrible humiliation), I also discovered than some of our friends knew about it, that he let a friend compare me to a “damage good”, he also wrote about it on TRP (I discovered it months later). People told him that he was my emotional sponge, that girls always apply last minute resistance because they don’t want to feel like sluts (if you go down this road and you force, it’s called a rape btw), and that every girl has a “stupid rape story”. That was just one story, but I have several like that in which my boyfriend said terrible things and acted terribly. But this one really hurted me . Now, he discovered how toxic TRP is, he’s totally against it and he’s trying to make a change but I am not sure it will erase all the things he did since I have been hurt by all his Red Pill mistakes for one year and a half while I tried to be the sweetest woman for him. So guys, please stay far away from TRP, it has the power to screw up your entire life and beautiful relationships.

No problem, btw if anyone has an advice on the situation I am living ( I'm still with him). It would be gladly accepted 😃

But he changed, he got involved into ExRedPill groups, he recognises the fact that TRP is terrible and he's trying to spread that too. But it doesn't take away what he did

I said it in the end

Now, he discovered how toxic TRP is, he’s totally against it and he’s trying to make a change "

No he doesn't

No worries

But that's the tricky part

Can you forgive someone who had been like that ?

has

You don't believe that a relationship can grow stronger from forgiveness from those kind of baggage ? You think it's something that can ruin it forever ?

Sorry for my bad English by the way

He keep saying that we built on a solid ground because we love each other a lot and we shared a deep connection and the things that he did was maybe like " 5 percent of the relationship", that's what he says. But I told him that I considered that to be shaky, what do you think about what he says ?

I feel you

I have so much empathy that I excuse anyone for anything, even if I suffer a lot from it

No that's not it. He meant to say that 5 percent of our relationship were those problems even if he admits he completely f up. The rest was just pure love according to him

He said he had been trapped in the red pill since he was 15. Like a cult, he believed anything they said. He told me he honestly did not want to cause me any harm. He truly believed that women were like that and that's how you had to treat them. I can feel he's honest when he says it but...

Me I didn't had one, He had one. He is kind of a wealthy American kid, went to a private school went to business school. I already spent time with his dad and even if he's physically there, I would say he was a bad role model, looking at a lot of other women than his lovely wife, poor standards and values, screams he's conservative but has the attitude of a crazy liberal,...

It's crazy, TRP is completely toxic to society, the funny part is that they claim to be conservative while fucking up society

But even if you're in a cult, I don't get how you can lack humanity to this point

It's reactionary to crazy feminists

One justifies the existence of the other

There's very few women who speak up about crazy feminists or stupid Red Pill , and says that both are toxic, so if I can be of any kind of help to change something, let me know

btw I can't believe they managed to have such an enormous group of Women of the Red Pill, that's honestly beyond ridiculous

Hahahaha you made me laugh tubby thanks

I guess the base

Like I said previously, there was love but he did a lot of BS that's pretty though to forgive

Hahaha I was actually 18 when I met him

Yes of course

We had the same goals, interests, and I thought we had the same values but if he acted like that, I guess not

Yes he did

@Donut Steel Tendies It's reassuring to hear

The foundational values are not the same since he acted like he did

No but that's what @-stupidface- talked about, constructing on moving sands

@tubby wdym ?

Which beliefs of TRP do you still carry in you ?

Haha is it because of bad past experiences or just coming from TRP ?

So terrible to see such evil spread so quick

Hahahahahahahahhahaha

No guys you are not my emotional tampon, I don't feel hurt anymore, I just want to find a way to help too ! 😃

How long have you guys been involved with TRP ?

wow

How did you all realised it was so evil ?

That's always good to know haha 😃

Congrats @tubby !

I'm not an expert either but If you need any advices on how the female brain works, or what woman want, here I am

Totally agreed

Regarding what exactly ?

@IntAnon I think a man shouldn't act crazy interested at the start. A right balance is always needed but I also do think that withdrawing attention from a women ( technique from the Red Pill I believe) is a very dangerous thing. A woman need the attention of her man, just for the basic fact that otherwise she doesn't feel safe and protected.

Playing with attention if always a very bad solution.

Yes it is to woman too.

Yup

Yes, woman don't want to feel *at first at least* like they are the only reason to live and to be happy of a man

Haha bye

@IntAnon Building a strong and beautiful family is the main project of a lot of women. Think about little girls, playing with fake babies, playing "family", dreaming of the Prince Charming. Every woman carries that in her heart but due to society's circumstances, women are pushed to be tougher, to be working women, to have the same aspirations as man. In fact, we can see that women are getting more masculine by the day by their attitude, way of dressing,... And men are becoming more feminine, more in their attitude of course : problems to take a decision, afraid of commitment, less hardworking than the past generations, more worried about their appearance,...

Don't feel forced. I think It will just come very naturally

How old are you ?

You should never feel guilty

haha

perhaps you have another mission in life, it has to come naturally 😃

It's fine, if you put them in a jungle at age 5 and they become like that alone. It's not fine when it's completely planned and pushed by the media

Every thing that's natural is fine, if people are not in the "norm" just because they are like that it's totally fine and beautiful. It's not beautiful when it has been pushed on them by 10000 external sources

I'll take my example, I have always been extremely feminine since I was very little. At age 14, I saw those cool woman, more androgyne looking and started to be this way for a bit because I saw that it was becoming the norm. Now, I am my feminine self and that's what I feel is natural and I love it

@Deleted User hahahaha that's insane

I think too 😃

Mine was completely absent from my life, I was raised by my mom who brought several abusive guys in our house. I can tell you that I almost hated men. But that's not the right attitude, our deceptive past can't dictate our future. You should want one day to construct this beautiful family that you wish you had

We are just 20

don't put pressure on yourself right now

You think loneliness is the solution ?

I understand, you can have friends, relatives,...

I agree

But finding the right person and starting a life together, I think that's a whole new level of personal hapiness

For sure

@Donut Steel Tendies Just saw you wrote that you were not too confident about your looks. As a girl, I can totally tell you that 5 feet 7 is not short at all (even if I'm on the shorter side). The most important is to develop your charisma. That's what appeals to me at first. I would totally date someone who has not awesome looks but so much charisma. Develop your sense of humour, how your present yourself and how you carry yourself as a strong man and you will get almost any girl you want