ironically only now i feel like im going my own way

I'm glad you did. And in a way, you are :)

I think some aspects of game are real and these guys could do with learning it eye contact, tonality, kino ect. The key, and the hard core pua's and trp forget that it all has to be done in your own way which echos what @Donut Steel Tendies just said

I don't find pua lifestyle appealing

I'd rather have a proper ltr and be done with it

I think it needs to be treated with more respect then a game.

The good thing with 'game' is it takes more of the sting out of rejection. If a sad emerging incel leaves his sess pit and gets hit with 10 rejections fuck that's going to crush him

The only thing RP has right is self improvement and self confidence. And ironically those and all the other tricks work just as well on both men and women.

Exactly

I have never been directly rejected in life so I cant relate

neither have I been accepted

100% agree. What trp has over other subs is it drives those aspects home harder. Which I think is more 'truthful'. Some of the guys on r/dating need to do some motherfucking work

I'm actually curious how different hunting for ltr and a regular pua thing are

You have some time. The other thing RP philosophy pushes is that it's over for women at 30. Making it seem like there is a rush. There is a lot of life after 30, for both men and women.

I just don't want short term raelationships

More life than before, if you are being realistic.

jsut don't want them

if I understood your answer correctly

I've been rejected a shit tonne. In person, over text, in public. Stood up all that shit. It didn't do me any good xD I haven't cried for 10 years. I nearly cried on the bus on the way home after a rejection that stung. Then I found trp.

I think the power dynamic shifts at the age of ~30 though.

As for hunting, you hunt for great women that you like. If you hit it off enough that's when it becomes more serious.

I cry sometimes

only human

Crying is human, men would do well to remember that.

What is important is that you find what makes you sad and, isolate the problem and deal with it

Rejection hurts for both sides too.

And it's a myth that it doesn't happen to women too, because it does.

100% I would argue the power dynamic on online dating makes it easier for women to hack rejection. But that is pointless 'muh gendah has it worse'

social isolation

Time to get social

that is my problem

You really do. You have to put yourself out there to have a chance. You miss 100% of the shots you never take and all that.

I have no place to start

legit none

You do though. You're here, talking to us, that's a start.

You know what bois. I've posted on r/nice guys and shit before trying to help some dudes out. It stings to hear this stuff. There's dudes struggling in silence all over. You only hear of it online.

This is why trp appeals. Appeals to the hurt. Bullshit like the blue pill and r/nice guys makes me seath. Ripping into all these hurt guys.

What hobbies do you have @Donut Steel Tendies

Being social is a matter of putting yourself out there.

I'm into cars, vidya, 3D modeling and doing random shit

There's a couple options you have.

Societies
Day game
night game
Clubs
colunterring

*volunteering

niiiiice, man I love cars too