Message from @tubby
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I guess the base
I think people can change, it just requires a lot of work and commitment on their part
Otherwise what we're doing here in this group is pointless 😃
Like I said previously, there was love but he did a lot of BS that's pretty though to forgive
@Maria Matthew no worries. You're dealing with some weird ass shit for a 20 year old xD
@Maria Matthew What was the base exactly? Did you have common values, interests and dreams together that were separate from the red pill
Hahaha I was actually 18 when I met him
Yes of course
We had the same goals, interests, and I thought we had the same values but if he acted like that, I guess not
believe it or not but I probably have even more boundaries when it comes to physical contact than you do @Maria Matthew so it's not really a male/female thing
Has he already denounced the red pill @Maria Matthew ?
Yes he did
If he has denounced it, committed to change, and the same foundational values are still there then I don't see anything wrong. Totally understand how it can be tough being with someone who has to go through a lot of change and self work
@Donut Steel Tendies It's reassuring to hear
The foundational values are not the same since he acted like he did
He may have broke the values in the past, but does he still break them in the present?
No but that's what @-stupidface- talked about, constructing on moving sands
I've seen some TRPers really change for the better, that's all I'm saying.
You'll have to determine if the moving sands are truly moving
No one leaves red pill insecurities though
If they're foundational, or if he's just becoming a better person and screwed up in the past
@tubby wdym ?
@tubby I think it's possible. After all, that's what we're all here for. I've seen people change
I was red pill. Not 100% has washed away
You don't just simply swallow the pill
Which beliefs of TRP do you still carry in you ?
Mine is 95% flushed to be honest
I was TRP has well. You definitely keep some aspects of it. You have trust problems with women and you're skeptical. But do you think it still continues beyond the inner workings?
So I can't entirely relate
yeah skeptical is a good way of putting it.
then again, I probably started earlier
Oh, I definitely have trust problems with women
that's why I'm not in a relationship lol
Haha is it because of bad past experiences or just coming from TRP ?
Both
Yeah, I think we all do after TRP. It's such conditioning that you're skeptical of everyone except for one or two women you're really close to
you don't join the red pill if you have good mental; health
All my friends were on it when I was back in high school. It's become very normalized unfortunately
So terrible to see such evil spread so quick
You know what I'm thinking now? the red pill would say 'look at all these white knight beta chodes flocking to help out/be an emotional tampon with a girl like emotional tampons xD Red pill always nags away