kendikane88

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2020-11-03 20:42:53 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

I had no idea Tyler was a fellow Minnesotan! I started watching on YouTube and really like his stuff. I am not on social media really so this platform is new to me. Never used IG or Twitter ever. Have a professional LinkedIn just in case I need to look for a job. Had FB in the past but left that platform cuz it’s so fake. Sorry for the long intro but I’m glad to be here. Hoping Minnesota can make history and go red today!

Hi guys

> @kendikane88 also ngl, didn't take u for religious...
@Book huh?

Oh what did I say?

> @MechaKnuckles
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> How do you know? It’s doesn’t say thou shalt not kill humans. And yes, eat the flesh of the animal, but you didn’t eat the spider, so does that violate the law? It’s says not to lust for another mans wife as well, but I’m sure you’ve watched explicit videos of an actress who’s married. So did you violate that law? You’ve definitely done something your parents have told you not to do, so did you violate that law? You see what I’m saying? Everyone is free to make their own, personal interpretations.
@TheSynical1 it says though shall not commit murder. Depending on what translation you look at.

KJV says not commit murder

> @kendikane88 Sure, but the context is important. And with context we know it's about not killing one aother.
@MechaKnuckles yes I agree

My husband and I have this conversation a lot as he used to be afraid of persecution a d doomsday prepping and stuff and he would say if it’s me or him, it ain’t gonna be me!

And to that I say what would Jesus do?

If we are called to be like Jesus and we are in a “me or him situation” what should we do? Well, what DID Jesus do? Did he take a life to spare his own?

> I never understood the “FEAR GOD.” Nonsense. God is all loving, so why should I fear someone who loves me? He made me, correct? He knows who I am, how I think and what I feel. So I have no fear of God, I only return the love that is given to me.
@TheSynical1 fear does not mean be afraid. It means to have a reverence/respect.

> @Book
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> I don’t strike fear into my son because he has a tantrum.
@TheSynical1 may I ask how old you are?

> @kendikane88
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> I’m in my 30s hahaha we don’t need to be exact. It just makes me realize how far away I’m getting from being young.
@TheSynical1 ahhhhh same here!

Yeah I think all the discussion about fear - you have to know what definition of fear we are talking about. The Bible also says fear (the being afraid kind) of God comes from fear of punishment. And that perfect love casts out all fear. Because once we know and understand God’s love for us we will know we do not face punishment at all. Because Jesus faced it for us.

> @Book
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> Are you sure? Because if my daughter or son were to stray from the path I intended to help set them on, I would still move hell and high water to protect them without them asking for it.
@TheSynical1 you are comparing the human father to the Heavenly Father. Although the two are alike on many ways they are different in many ways also.

> See, but that is *your* interpretation of how God works. And my point, is that everyone is free to have their *own* interpretations.
@TheSynical1 that can be dangerous though. For people who know what the Bible says - there is no interpretation. God lays out his standards for us very clearly in fact.

> @kendikane88
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> How different can we be if we are made in his image. That’s like saying God is not flawed. Of course God is flawed! He obviously has flawed creations, if he didn’t, then humans would be perfect, correct
@TheSynical1 not correct. God is perfect. Humans are flawed because of original sin.

> No God is perfect, but he purposely made us flawed.
@Book that’s also not entirely true. He gave us free Will. We chose to sin.

> @kendikane88
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> See, once again, interpretations. And I love all of your interpretations. That’s the point in this discussion 🙂
@TheSynical1 that’s not interpretation though. That is what the Bible says.

> @TheSynical1 okay. i may anger somebody but I've a conspiracy theory that God sets up Adam and Eve to fail. Lucifer deceived him, and so to curb rebellions he had the apple to test Adam and Eve
@isoboto I mean I don’t think you’re wrong. God is all knowing after all. It’s not like the serpent entered the garden on the sly without God knowing...

> @TheSynical1 okay. i may anger somebody but I've a conspiracy theory that God sets up Adam and Eve to fail. Lucifer deceived him, and so to curb rebellions he had the apple to test Adam and Eve
@isoboto AND if you think about it on a deeper level God exists outside of the confines of time. So I’m his eyes everything that is going to happen has already happened. So basically we are living in the greatest story ever told and He has already written it.

> Ahhh, and if God gave us free will, could that not be a mistake on his behalf? If it wasn’t a mistake, then why would our choices exercised in that will anger Him so? The New Testament shows us a much angrier and vengeful God, doesn’t it? And the New Testament introduces a more Loving and caring God. So riddle me this, if God was perfect to begin with, why did God change? Perfect doesn’t need to change
@TheSynical1 see my reply above about the greatest story.

> @TheSynical1 Preachers...that's why you need to trust in the bible.
@Book amen to that!

> @kendikane88 maybe 2020 is the end of the story 👀 we're at the finale
@isoboto oh man! I wish!

It’s def not PG!

> @kendikane88
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> But those same preachers trust the Bible. AND, probably know more about it’s content than all of us. So, you can forgo their interpretation and put your trust into the Book, which would be *your* interpretation. I mean, a Catholic Priest will tell you one way, a Protestant another way, and on and on. Does that make any of them wrong? No. Does that make any of them right? No. Because of the *free will* to interpret the Word as you see it.
@TheSynical1 I just disagree man. I think Catholics are wrong about a lot of things based on what I have read. And you can call it interpretation if you want but it clearly is not in a lot of places.

> @kendikane88 do you think about hell a lot? i haven't reached that chapter in the bible, but i imagined hell in Buddhism sense (with 7 levels, boiling oil vats and demons whipping us, etc.)
@isoboto I don’t think about it a lot because I know that it doesn’t apply to me. I believe that people who end up in hell face an eternity of suffering. Some people think they will be “blotted out” into non existence. But I believe the lake of fire is a place of eternal suffering just as heaven is a place of eternal life

If anyone is ever looking for good resources these are my two most trusted: got questions.org and their other site bibleref.com

> @kendikane88
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> See, and you’re free to feel that way. Im sure some Catholics would love to tell you why you’re wrong. But that’s the beauty of it. There is no right or wrong as long as, in the end, you believe
@TheSynical1 have you read a lot of the Bible? I’m just curious because you seem reluctant to accept what is in it. So makes me curious if you really know what is in it. Don’t mean to sound rude there. I don’t know a better way to say that.

> @kendikane88 how do you know, though? people says they can be saved and therefore not go to hell, but don't you think god would have a system where people atone for their sins?
@isoboto no I do not think god had a system for people to atone for their sins because Jesus already did that. And the way to go to heaven (and stay out of hell) is not to atone for our own sin but to accept Jesus’s death on the cross as the atonement for us.

> @kendikane88
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> Not rude. I understand. And my grandfather was a minister, and without a father in my home, my father figure, if that helps make things clear. Your acceptance can differ from mine, and mine from yours and so on. And that is ultimately my point.
@TheSynical1 thanks for sharing your experience. So is your understanding of what is in the Bible mainly based on what you learned from your grandfather then?

> @kendikane88 lmao i think that's a reason why i can't ever be a christian. i simply can't accept letting jesus bear the burden of my sins. it feels wrong to me -- being unresponsible
@isoboto that is a spirit of pride. It’s hard to accept that you can not earn your own way.

> @kendikane88
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> Well, my introduction was from him, my mother and church when I was younger. My viewpoints and understanding are solely my own. As yours should be too.
@TheSynical1 right but what I’m really asking is - is your opinion about the contents of the Bible based on the co tents of the Bible or based on what you’ve learned from others?

> @kendikane88
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> As I said, it’s based on myself. My own interpretations. No man, woman or child can influence my viewpoints or relationship with God, because that relationship is solely between me and God.
@TheSynical1 so based on yourself but not based on the merits of the contents of the book?

> @kendikane88
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> As I said, it’s based on myself. My own interpretations. No man, woman or child can influence my viewpoints or relationship with God, because that relationship is solely between me and God.
@TheSynical1 sorry I’m not trying to be argumentative. I think you should spend some time reading the contents of the Bible and see for yourself if there really is room for interpretation in the different books. There are some things I cannot comprehend and some thing I think can be interpreted differently. But I don’t think it’s fair to simply say each persons truth is their own. There is right and wrong black and white. It’s not relative. It is absolute.

Ok guys I gotta leave now. Hope to see you all here later on sometime. Keep praying for our nation our president and for truth

> @kendikane88
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> Look. How can I put this plainly. The Book is of course an influence, but the Book, *to me*, is not the end all be all. The Book is a foundation for a good moral compass, but it’s not the ultimate. My spirit is in me, not in a book. God is in me, not in a book. That’s **my** view. And, if it clashes with yours, that’s ok. I accept that, and I accept and wish nothing but blessings to all of you. I found my peace my way, and that’s ok, you’ve found your peace your way, and that’s ok too!
@TheSynical1 well for your sake the most important part of the Bible that feel is not up for interpretation is our salvation from eternal death through the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. This is not up for interpretation because Jesus clearly says I am the way the truth and the light. No one comes to the father but through me. So if people want to interpret that as “all paths lead to God” that is simply false and dangerous because if you do t accept Christ as your savior, you won’t get to heaven. That is why I think it’s important to know which places of the Bible leave room for interpretation and which do not. Because the consequences of not understanding it can lead to eternal death and damnation. That is eternity in hell. So I will step down off my soap box now. Just wanted to let you know why I believe it is very important.

Don’t forget to check out www.got questions.org download the got questions app. Www.bibleref.com as well

> @SomeSouthernGuy well I mostly use it as a tool when I'm preaching against Muslims
@ARCADEIUS i am always careful about sharing with other faith groups. I am/was friends with a man who was Jewish (he is still friends with my husband but I don’t talk to him very much) and he told me straight out he was not interested in hearing about my faith in Jesus. If people are curious I am happy to share but I really do try to respect people of other faiths. Those who are willing to have a conversation with me, well I share as long as they are open to hearing what I say. But I try to remain respectful at all times. I would never try to “catch” someone in a fault of their religion. I try to only say what the Bible says.

My favorite modern day preachers if anyone is interested are Robert Morris at gateway church Jimmy Evans family life today and Rick warren saddleback church.

> @DrStrange77 Why should a child be murdered for the crimes of the parents (rape or incest)? Plus, if we're going to allow abortion for rape, we should just allow it no questions asked so women don't have even *more* incentive than they already do to fuck men's lives over by falsely accusing them of rape.
@mathgrant I agree. The whole rape argument has been the foundation of their justification

> if you see your fellow islam slaughter, behead, enslave your people. and you remain islamic? you deserve to die. :D
@HarleyQuinn that’s kind of a harsh statement. Where did that come from?

I believe that all life is created by God regardless of the context or circumstance. I believe that God is sovereign and has ultimate authority over everything. Literally everything. So if that baby wasn’t meant to be there God wouldn’t have allowed it. That is my opinion based on the Bible. As such, I also believe all life to be sacred because all life is created by God and the Bible says people are his most beloved and precious creation. He loves us more than anything else He created.

So I do not actually believe in allowing abortion due to rape. I have actually been raped and if it would have resulted in a child I would have kept my baby. People say that it would be hard because the child would remind you of the offense but I think that is nonsense. How can you look at a precious innocent baby and think about a crime? Maybe that’s just me but I can’t get behind that argument.

2020-11-12 01:37:15 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Why is YouTube down?

2020-11-12 18:27:56 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> Beer/alcohol > women
@Max4Z beer divided by alcohol is greater than women? So you like NA beer?

2020-11-12 18:28:36 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> No I meant both alcohol and beer
@Max4Z I know. Just razzing you.

2020-11-12 18:29:13 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> I need my morning coffee
@Max4Z it’s afternoon

2020-11-12 18:29:28 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> No, I think he meant beer and or alcohol
@Dr. Taco lol I was kidding

2020-11-12 18:30:00 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Dark

2020-11-12 18:30:52 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

So I take this chat is filled with teenage boys?

2020-11-12 18:31:54 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

The conversation just seemed like teenage boys saying stuff that’s better than women so I assumed.

2020-11-12 18:32:52 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

> @kendikane88 wats wrong with teenager boys
@Max4Z I never said anything was wrong with teenage boys. Just trying to read the room

2020-11-12 18:35:28 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

What is general actually for?

2020-11-12 18:35:45 UTC [Zeducation #💬|general]  

Ok thanks

Hello friends. We should all pray for Tyler zed. Conservative voices are targets in this world.

Hi everyone. Whoever is reading this I just want you to stop what you are doing and take a second to think about how much God loves you! You are His precious child and he adores you! He is proud of you and He loves to watch you be yourself. Whenever you do that thing, you know that thing you do that is so typically you. When you do that thing God is looking down on you lovingly thinking that’s my child! He made you and He is so proud of you! Merry Christmas everyone! Your father in heaven loves you so much!

I disagree. I am a Protestant Christian and i believe in the Bible as the sole authority for all things. So no we do not believe in the same things.

In particular I do not believe that God was ever man except for the incarnation of Jesus. I do not believe He was a man who achieved Godhood. The Bible says that God has always existed and never changes.

Sorry. I sort of just jumped into the the conversation here. Didn’t mean to be rude but also to clarify

If the Book of Mormon teaches that God was once a man then it is in direct conflict with what the Bible says. The Bible tells us that God is eternal. He has always been, and always will be. He has never changed and never will. And that is good.

Psalm 90:2 states Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God. Meaning from eternity past to eternity future He is God.

Well I appreciate that insight. I think it is clear to see we are both devout in our beliefs and that our beliefs are not the same.

Because I believe the Bible to be Gods complete revelation of all things, I do not believe in modern day prophecy. I don’t believe God sends any special revelation to people today. I believe the gift of prophecy was given for the time it was needed. But it is no longer needed because God sent us His entire revelation in the scriptures, which I believe are the true inerrant inspired word of God.

But I don’t believe that people are following Jesus’s teachings if you are using supplemental literature. That is my belief. So that is why I disagree that we are following the same teacher.

I don’t mean to be adversarial. Please don’t think of it like that. I’m just saying by your own admission you follow the teachings from books that were written by modern prophets (or something similar to that I think?) and I just don’t believe that those modern authors were truly inspired to write the way the authors of the Bible were. That is the main difference.

And the reason I feel that way is because I believe the Bible is Gods complete revelation of all things past present and future. As such there would be non need of supplemental literature.

Here is the main reason why my faith is so important to me. From my understanding of the Bible we are saved from eternal hell by the process of becoming a born again believer. Which includes admitting we are born sinners and recognizing our inability to save ourselves. We accept Jesus’s death on the cross as the ultimate atonement for all of our sin past present and future. For it is by grace we are saved by faith. And not of works that no man should boast. This means we accept Jesus’s death as the free gift that washes away our sin and allows us to go to heaven when we die. If we do not become born again in this way we go to hell and pay for our own sin through eternal suffering. And here is what is dangerous - if I believe what the Bible says - it is by grace (a free gift) that I am saved through faith (my belief that Jesus did this for me) then if I try to earn my way to heaven with works I am thereby denying the ability of Jesus’s death to pay the full price for my sin. I am saying it isn’t enough.

And that is what is different and sets us apart. This is the core and heart of my beliefs.

So that is why I can get a little passionate about my beliefs because many Christian denominations including the catholic faith teach things like sacraments that must be done in order to gain entry to heaven from our own works. Things we do. Like baptism and going to church and participating in the lords supper and tithing. All these things we are instructed to do yea! But it does not determine whether or not we will gain entry to heaven. The work on the cross was our ticket into heaven.

I am not really supportive of ecumenical or universalist religion because I feel the truth is not to be compromised. And the consequence of compromised truth is souls lost to hell for eternity. So that is why I am not ashamed of the gospel (the good news of Gods plan for salvation) and I like to share it.

The only good I am interested in is helping people get to heaven and stay out of hell. I can do that by speaking openly in public about what the Bible says. It tells us that we can know 100% for certain that we will go to heaven when we die! What a relief!

If you believe that you have put your full faith in Jesus as your lord as savior and you know you are going to heaven when you die, then you can call yourself whatever you want - you are a brother or sister in Christ.

I wouldn’t know how to explain that. The Bible talks about magic coming from bad sources though and warns against it.

If they say things that are contrary to what the Bible teaches.

The Bible calls it sorcery. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21:8

It is also referred to as the seers in Micah 3:7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Micah 3:7

There is also a reference to it in Samuel. I am looking for it now.

Chapter 28 of Samuel discusses in particular conjuring dead people to speak to them.

There is a verse in I think 1 Corinthians that talks about the gift of prophecy being passed away.

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1 Corinthians 13:9-12 this is my understanding of these verses as taken in context. People prophesied before Christ was born and during his life. But when “that which is perfect has come” means the complete revelation of the word through Jesus’s finished work on the cross. Once that happened, then certain gifts perished. Including the gift of prophecy and the gift of speaking in tongues. Since those gifts were only needed for a period of time. Once all knowledge was recorded in scripture and all necessary events occurred regarding Jesus’s death and resurrection, then there was no more need of those gifts. It is already written what is to come. Mostly in Revelations. That is my understanding of these things.

So there is the scripture with some context and how/why I believe the way I do based on that content.

I am not trying to participate in a slug fest. But I do like to show people why I believe the way I do. Which I welcome others to do as well. I hold the Bible to be my sole authority and I believe what is in it. I don’t mind others referring to their religious texts as well. I just don’t believe in anything other than the Bible.

I can agree with that. There is way to get the same message across but use soft language. I am trying to do that. I hope it comes out on the other side that way. No harshness intended in my tone.

Whenever I hear people talk about this verse it always reminds me of the fruits of the spirit which are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. I pray for the fruit of the spirit to be evident in my life. I try not to evaluate my life based on the fruit of my work but on whether the fruit of the spirit is evident throughout my life.

I do try to be respectful. I know how strongly I feel about my convictions and how much I love Jesus. I don’t get easily offended when others call into question my opinions or beliefs because I know what I know.

Yes! To this! ❤️

I agree with you but it isn’t helpful to speak so strongly to people. It causes people to become defensive and then they stop listening altogether. The only reason we call attention to things like this should be for the other persons benefit. So that they may be saved. So setting yourself up in opposition to people who aren’t in agreement with us is not the right way to pursue the conversation either.

One of the fruits of the spirit is gentleness. We need to speak with gentleness in our language so that by our fruits we will be known as children of God.

I agree there is no need for harsh language. But to say that our beliefs are basically the same isn’t quite true either. You are right that we are each entitled to believe as we choose and I am simply saying that our beliefs are not in agreement.

Isn’t that what you have been saying?

Well you’re not swearing but, yes, some of what you are saying is very strong.

I don’t think we believe in Jesus Christ the same way. Even satan believes in God and Jesus but he does not obey God.

I agree with you. But each person has to walk their own road. I speak about the things I have learned and about my experience. We all have to go through it for ourselves. I was once a zealous evangelist and wanted to teach everyone what I knew. But they have to come to understanding each on their own.

We are having many different discussions actually.

I can understand that desire in your heart. Even area seems the have the desire for us all to be in agreement. This is good you guys. It comes from the right place. But like I’ve said everyone has to go through their own experiences to come to their own understanding. I do believe that there is only one truth. But it is for each person to discover on their own.

I’m sorry I meant Rea. I was referring to there.

It really isn’t your job to go around telling people what is right and wrong. If you want to evangelize you must first establish a relationship. Otherwise your words will not be accepted but only met with contempt.

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