Message from @kendikane88

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2020-12-22 18:10:52 UTC  

2. You can't be come worthy by just giving money, flase teaching right their.
3. Do you believe they are 3 in 1?
4.God was never a man. He is the beginning and the end. If you think we can become God or like God is a huge flase teaching. What gives you an idea that their was another round of creation, it never mentioned it in the bible. No the reason why we know knowledge like God is because the devil trick eve into thinking she can be come like God by eating the forbidden fruit. That doesn't make us close to God because God us without sin and is holy. Once we eat the forbidden fruit that was the first sin.
5. The creator's of world's is just one and thats one almighty God. No one can be come like God the devil tried that and got yeeted from heaven. Yes trying to become like diminish the importance of the 1 true God, because what you are proposing is that their are many God's and just 1 true God. He called us onto earth to help the lost.
6. So hittler,ect doesn't deserve hell? Little children are alive in christ intill thhley get the knowledge of what's right and whats wrong. "God is partial God" what are your trying say with that?
Yeah many had died without baptism, but baptism isn't a key thing to heaven, baptism is you showing the whole world you are dedicating your life to christ. Yes adults are condemned to hell worms don't save least any of you boast about it. If I'm right I think Paul or Peter wrote it. Works doesn't save, your faith in christ does, I believe thier is a bible verse that basically says works doesn't save.
7. The bible says that the Jesus on the cross was the sacrifice not sure why they think Gethsemane is part of it.
8.Many churchs like mine doesn't provide and escape, my church provide a way to salvation by teaching us that Jesus is christ and he forgive us and saves us from all our sins. Are church doesn't hide the cruel and selfish world from us. Yes our church provides us with hope for the future.

2020-12-22 18:11:26 UTC  

1. How can God forgive us from sin and not save us from it.

2020-12-22 18:12:27 UTC  

I wouldn’t know how to explain that. The Bible talks about magic coming from bad sources though and warns against it.

2020-12-22 18:13:09 UTC  

If they say things that are contrary to what the Bible teaches.

2020-12-22 18:13:23 UTC  

Yes it tell us that black magic exist we should avoid it.

2020-12-22 18:13:43 UTC  

What? When did that ever happen?

2020-12-22 18:13:44 UTC  

You'll know them by there fruits

2020-12-22 18:13:56 UTC  

And their fruits are showing

2020-12-22 18:15:07 UTC  

What are their fruits then, because I have not seen one that has not been for the betterment of humanity.

2020-12-22 18:18:12 UTC  

Hold I will get with you and a couple hours I got to the mall and I need to buy presents fpr my siblings hope you read the points made for.

2020-12-22 18:18:27 UTC  

Rog.

2020-12-22 18:20:01 UTC  

The Bible calls it sorcery. But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 21:8

2020-12-22 18:21:21 UTC  

It is also referred to as the seers in Micah 3:7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.
Micah 3:7

2020-12-22 18:21:46 UTC  

There is also a reference to it in Samuel. I am looking for it now.

2020-12-22 18:30:46 UTC  

Chapter 28 of Samuel discusses in particular conjuring dead people to speak to them.

2020-12-22 18:31:08 UTC  

There is a verse in I think 1 Corinthians that talks about the gift of prophecy being passed away.

2020-12-22 18:31:56 UTC  

Look, I'm trying to really avoid a scripture-slug-fest debate here, so I'll just say this before we continue: please don't attack us for believing what we believe, I haven't attacked anyone's faith and my only real purpose is to clarify our beliefs. If you have honest questions or concerns, I will do my best to answer them, but if you want to only say "false teachings" or otherwise attack our beliefs, I will not respond out of mutual respect for both of our cherished beliefs and values.

2020-12-22 18:36:21 UTC  

Plus it's against the channel rules.

2020-12-22 18:36:45 UTC  

For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
1 Corinthians 13:9-12 this is my understanding of these verses as taken in context. People prophesied before Christ was born and during his life. But when “that which is perfect has come” means the complete revelation of the word through Jesus’s finished work on the cross. Once that happened, then certain gifts perished. Including the gift of prophecy and the gift of speaking in tongues. Since those gifts were only needed for a period of time. Once all knowledge was recorded in scripture and all necessary events occurred regarding Jesus’s death and resurrection, then there was no more need of those gifts. It is already written what is to come. Mostly in Revelations. That is my understanding of these things.

2020-12-22 18:37:44 UTC  

So there is the scripture with some context and how/why I believe the way I do based on that content.

2020-12-22 18:40:33 UTC  

I am not trying to participate in a slug fest. But I do like to show people why I believe the way I do. Which I welcome others to do as well. I hold the Bible to be my sole authority and I believe what is in it. I don’t mind others referring to their religious texts as well. I just don’t believe in anything other than the Bible.

2020-12-22 18:42:14 UTC  

I realize that. Thing are just getting heated and confusing. I like learning about others' faith. I just really want to avoid argument or having anyone feel attacked.

2020-12-22 18:43:40 UTC  

I can agree with that. There is way to get the same message across but use soft language. I am trying to do that. I hope it comes out on the other side that way. No harshness intended in my tone.

2020-12-22 18:45:04 UTC  

It's difficult to guage tone via text but you have been pretty respectful.

2020-12-22 18:46:39 UTC  

Whenever I hear people talk about this verse it always reminds me of the fruits of the spirit which are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. I pray for the fruit of the spirit to be evident in my life. I try not to evaluate my life based on the fruit of my work but on whether the fruit of the spirit is evident throughout my life.

2020-12-22 18:49:16 UTC  

I do try to be respectful. I know how strongly I feel about my convictions and how much I love Jesus. I don’t get easily offended when others call into question my opinions or beliefs because I know what I know.

2020-12-22 19:09:53 UTC  

I am the same way. I'm not offended, I know what I know. I just dont want people to feel unsafe sharing their beliefs. That's it. I don't care if you're Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or any other religion. No one should feel afraid to believe what they believe.

2020-12-22 19:18:43 UTC  

Yes! To this! ❤️

2020-12-22 19:31:36 UTC  

Hey I'm not attacking im just trying to show you whats wrong with your belifs and its different than a chirstians yes you believe Jesus is christ and he saves us from all sins and forgives all sins but whats wrong is you are saying we can become God or like God which is wrong

2020-12-22 19:33:41 UTC  

I agree with you but it isn’t helpful to speak so strongly to people. It causes people to become defensive and then they stop listening altogether. The only reason we call attention to things like this should be for the other persons benefit. So that they may be saved. So setting yourself up in opposition to people who aren’t in agreement with us is not the right way to pursue the conversation either.

2020-12-22 19:34:48 UTC  

One of the fruits of the spirit is gentleness. We need to speak with gentleness in our language so that by our fruits we will be known as children of God.

2020-12-22 19:35:29 UTC  

I can’t believe this conversation is still going. The main point anyone was trying to get at was that we all believe in Jesus Christ. And that’s that. There’s no need to call our prophets false or our beliefs wrong. Like I said earlier, you can believe whatever you want. I can believe what I want. Let’s just leave it at that because basically what you are doing is attacking our religion, whether you say you are or not.

2020-12-22 19:36:49 UTC  

I agree there is no need for harsh language. But to say that our beliefs are basically the same isn’t quite true either. You are right that we are each entitled to believe as we choose and I am simply saying that our beliefs are not in agreement.

2020-12-22 19:37:32 UTC  

No one said they were the same.

2020-12-22 19:37:37 UTC  

Well when your beliefs go against the bible yet call your self chirstians, it is us to point it out.

2020-12-22 19:37:52 UTC  

Isn’t that what you have been saying?

2020-12-22 19:37:54 UTC  

This is true.

2020-12-22 19:37:57 UTC  

have use any harsh language?

2020-12-22 19:38:03 UTC  

No. I said we both believe in Jesus Christ.

2020-12-22 19:38:10 UTC  

Do you not believe in Christ?

2020-12-22 19:38:15 UTC  

I do