Message from @kendikane88

Discord ID: 791028920208195615


2020-12-22 19:38:03 UTC  

No. I said we both believe in Jesus Christ.

2020-12-22 19:38:10 UTC  

Do you not believe in Christ?

2020-12-22 19:38:15 UTC  

I do

2020-12-22 19:38:19 UTC  

Well you’re not swearing but, yes, some of what you are saying is very strong.

2020-12-22 19:38:24 UTC  

That was the only point we were getting at.

2020-12-22 19:39:35 UTC  

Ok but when you think you can become God or like God thats not a good teaching because look what the devil tried to do he tried attack God to become God and the devil was thrown from heaven

2020-12-22 19:39:38 UTC  

I don’t think we believe in Jesus Christ the same way. Even satan believes in God and Jesus but he does not obey God.

2020-12-22 19:40:14 UTC  

That is true the and the devil thinks he above them

2020-12-22 19:40:47 UTC  

That is not what we are talking about. We all believe in Jesus Christ. That’s that. Doesn’t matter how. I don’t know how many more times I have to say this.

2020-12-22 19:41:25 UTC  

Yes but your not understanding there is more than believing jesus is christ

2020-12-22 19:41:39 UTC  

I agree with you. But each person has to walk their own road. I speak about the things I have learned and about my experience. We all have to go through it for ourselves. I was once a zealous evangelist and wanted to teach everyone what I knew. But they have to come to understanding each on their own.

2020-12-22 19:41:44 UTC  

Obviously. But *we are not talking about that.*

2020-12-22 19:42:12 UTC  

Ok? So I can't talk about that

2020-12-22 19:42:16 UTC  

We are having many different discussions actually.

2020-12-22 19:43:19 UTC  

Feel free. But the original discussion, which has evolved into you guys saying our religion is false, started with us saying that our foundational belief in Jesus Christ is the same in that we both believe in Him.

2020-12-22 19:43:27 UTC  

I'm a pentecostal and I just wanna help as much people as I can, I feel it my heart to spread it

2020-12-22 19:44:02 UTC  

To tell you whats wrong with some teachings

2020-12-22 19:44:53 UTC  

I can understand that desire in your heart. Even area seems the have the desire for us all to be in agreement. This is good you guys. It comes from the right place. But like I’ve said everyone has to go through their own experiences to come to their own understanding. I do believe that there is only one truth. But it is for each person to discover on their own.

2020-12-22 19:45:23 UTC  

I’m sorry I meant Rea. I was referring to there.

2020-12-22 19:46:14 UTC  

Well, I have no idea what's going on anymore. I'm ducking out of this one.

2020-12-22 19:46:31 UTC  

It really isn’t your job to go around telling people what is right and wrong. If you want to evangelize you must first establish a relationship. Otherwise your words will not be accepted but only met with contempt.

2020-12-22 19:47:44 UTC  

Yeah. I’m out. You guys don’t seem to understand what I’m saying, and I’m not really in the mood to have my beliefs attacked. But feel free to continue discussing it.

2020-12-22 19:48:42 UTC  

To be fair I think I do understand what you’re saying. But I disagree.

2020-12-22 19:50:03 UTC  

I just really don’t think the Jesus that is presented in your religion is the same character in my religion. That is my opinion.

2020-12-22 19:50:27 UTC  

Yeah I agree on last part but God had call us unto tell people what's right and wrong but it's their decision to think what's right or wrong for we have free will.

2020-12-22 19:52:05 UTC  

Yep and Jesus instructed us on how to present the gospel. Go to peoples homes. Knock on their doors. If they invite you in, have supper with them. He said all of this to illustrate the importance of building a relationship before you present the gospel. Otherwise people just dismiss you. What do I care what some@random stranger has to say about things after all?

2020-12-22 19:53:46 UTC  

If you really feel called to help people understand then you should think of discipleship as more of a mentor program than mass communication. Talk to people one at a time. Show that you actually are invested in them. Otherwise your message is just spam.

2020-12-22 19:55:22 UTC  

True but you left out we need to go into pairs of 2

2020-12-22 19:55:45 UTC  

Lol yes that too.

2020-12-22 19:55:55 UTC  

I will talk with my church leaders about it

2020-12-22 19:56:18 UTC  

So are we gonna buddy up here then? Lol! Keeping it light. God has a sense of humor ya know!

2020-12-22 19:58:20 UTC  

Ever since I been reading the Bible 100% this year I felt more passionate on pointing out the misleading conceptions about the other chirstians domination

2020-12-22 20:00:05 UTC  

Well then perhaps you may be familiar with Matthew 7:3?

2020-12-22 20:00:13 UTC  

I had huge battle with a catholic server and had some of them questioning themselves if catholic is wrong

2020-12-22 20:01:09 UTC  

Yes I do I know

2020-12-22 20:01:52 UTC  

And be careful that pointing out other people’s errors isn’t a point of pride for yourself because this is self righteousness.

2020-12-22 20:02:14 UTC  

And I’m sure you know pride is no bueno

2020-12-22 20:03:07 UTC  

The need to be right for self righteousness sake is pride. But if your heart is in the right place you will want to follow Gods precepts for His sake. To bring honor and glory to Him. Not just so you can be on the right side.

2020-12-22 20:17:17 UTC  

Yeah I know like if I'm doing the same sin and trying to tell someone that the sin their is wrong then I'm not allowed to them their sins is wrong

2020-12-22 20:19:50 UTC  

Close. The point is we are all sinners and are all doing something wrong. It doesn’t necessarily mean you are doing the same sin, but that you are a sinner. The most important commandment we are given is to love the lord thy god with all your heart and all your mind. And the second commandment is like it which is to love your neighbor as yourself. So this is why we must be gentle when talking to people. 1 John instructs us to speak the truth in love. Yes! We are told to speak the truth. But! We must do it lovingly. Not accusingly.

2020-12-22 20:23:38 UTC  

Mark 12:30-31 is the reference for the first and second commandment text I listed if you wanted to know.