right there

And if they do... I disagree with them

correction

yea?

Liberals in the modern sense do want a big government, to do just about everything, classical liberal is something you are more akin to, something center and more right

I try to avoid labels and stick to specifics, but you can consider me whatever you want

Don't get a leftist and a liberal confused, a true liberal would be Republican

But I think there's a difference between a big government and a government that is too large to function efficiently, financially. What are programs that you think shouldn't exist via the government?

modern liberals - leftists

NSA

easily

Yeah don't really care about labels they seem unnecessary to individual conversations

FBI CIA

So federal crimes shouldn't be investigated?

or... just shouldn't exist I guess?

and more controversially the federal bank or whatever which controls currency

Wait so you want an unregulated currency and no federal protection from crime?

federal crimes are a thing in a sense but should not be in such a big org as they are

just wait for that

ok so you're really saying that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are too big for what they should be

and could be smaller, but not nonexistant?

federal currency was still a thing before the current whatever is in place, it was backed by silver and gold, nowadays it's backed by nothing

CIA Gone

FBI much smaller and more elite and efficient

NSA gone

unless national crisis in which case highly limited capacity

Would you be concerned that foreign governments would try to fuck with various parts of our country without these institutions?

And it would be hard to re-make an institution quickly in response to something... that seems remarkably inefficient

I know they would try, but in such a case that things like the CIA would simply not go over seas, they would work purely on our shores unless needed otherwise to protect our soil

I agree

also reforming an institution such as the NSA is far quicker than you might expect, getting to a highly efficient cost per dollar is another thing

might I suggest a video to watch? this might help a lot

How is it far quicker than I might expect? where are you pulling that from?

sure!

Like don't get me wrong I don't know that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are as efficient as they should be. But how would anybody else know that either? It's some of the effing most secretive organizations in existence.

various places like Emergency systems that don't exist otherwise already have a basis but just arent running. and PragerU rather a youtube channel, a little more biased to the right in educational content than I prefer but i like them.

wait what does PragerU have to do with this

I seriously loathe their video on morality

oh that's who you recommend

my point, more biased than I prefer just something to watch, I couldn't find the video but they have many things that explain this like taxes and big government

I don't like PragerU mostly due to their lack of introspection. Rarely in their videos do I hear "We believe this to be the case" or "although there is the possibility that" which is a huge red flag, lack of self awareness and critical thinking. They seem to think very strongly about things which I generally associate with stubbornness and stupidity. The geniuses I have met are confident, but constantly addressing nuances in issues rather than painting things as easy or obvious.