Message from @wahx

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2018-10-03 22:38:14 UTC  

no its a easy question

2018-10-03 22:38:38 UTC  

Didn't say it was a hard question, just a great one

2018-10-03 22:38:51 UTC  

About the Ford assault specifically?

2018-10-03 22:38:59 UTC  

I mean what else lol

2018-10-03 22:41:14 UTC  

For sure. Yeah idk because I think there's a couple scenarios here, none of which are proven just yet. He did assault her and he's lying about it, he did assault her and he doesn't remember it and he's telling the truth, or he's telling the truth. My hunch is he's lying about it. Ford's accusation (the initial letter) was so early on in the process of the nomination so it's a compelling accusation. What are your thoughts on it?

2018-10-03 22:41:39 UTC  

hahaha omg my tag

2018-10-03 22:42:42 UTC  

My thoughts, well I follow the phrase: Innocent until proven guilty

2018-10-03 22:43:06 UTC  

and her argument isn't that compelling, even her "witnesses" went the other direction

2018-10-03 22:43:28 UTC  

and now it's turning into a trend, here in Washington a woman is doing the same thing to a person in the state government

2018-10-03 22:43:35 UTC  

who is Republican btw (cant tell you the name)

2018-10-03 22:43:41 UTC  

I forgot it

2018-10-03 22:44:28 UTC  

The Dems were so pissed when the 9th judge resigned, no doubt about it that it was some kind of stunt

2018-10-03 22:44:42 UTC  

And well anyways, for the time being I got to go but Ill be back in like a couple hours

2018-10-03 22:45:54 UTC  

Yeah so say it was a stunt, she sent her letter to Feinstein when Kavanaugh was just on a list of potential nominees. Do you think the dems had letters ready for every potential nominee that were all fabricated from different women? Genuine question, if that's the case.

2018-10-03 22:47:22 UTC  

And innocent until proven guilty usually refers to court cases, no one's trying to convict him of anything, so the threshold is definitely different. I'd say if there's like a reasonable (40% or higher idk) chance of a SC justice nominee doing something super fucked up then that's a no go. Not that we've gotten to 40% yet idk really.

2018-10-03 22:48:02 UTC  

I think waiting to release the accusation was a stunt 100%. But not the actual accusation.

2018-10-03 22:48:28 UTC  

And it's super annoying they did that, releasing that accusation right before the vote. Not cool.

2018-10-03 22:48:33 UTC  

Frankly, I have no clue. Although she brought up this accusation around what, 40 years after the actual incident occurred. Not to mention her own accusations contradict herself

2018-10-03 22:49:11 UTC  

For both reasons, you know I think the accusation wasn't real AND the accusation was a stunt

2018-10-03 22:49:30 UTC  

Not to mention her lawyers just so happened to all be liberal Democrats lol

2018-10-03 22:49:37 UTC  

I'm not aware of these contradictions, can you link them?

2018-10-03 22:50:09 UTC  

Unfortunately right now I cannot, but she brought up old highschool friends as witnesses and even they said they do not believe Kavanaugh committed this assault

2018-10-03 22:50:15 UTC  

and now I really got to go

2018-10-03 22:50:18 UTC  

we can continue later

2018-10-03 22:50:21 UTC  

sorry

2018-10-03 22:50:29 UTC  

And yea she talks about why she waited, the benefit from helping society (in her mind) finally outweighed the difficulty of talking about her (alleged) rape

2018-10-03 22:50:43 UTC  

Yeah for sure dude imma type out my reply, tag me if you wanna reply later

2018-10-03 22:54:02 UTC  

Just looked it up - all the witnesses claim they do not recall which is really specific, doesn't mean they deny it. One of them still maintains that she believes Ford actually, despite not recollecting the event, but another witness says they never saw Brett behave in that kind of way. Real mixed bag of witnesses, so not compelling evidence for sure. But doesn't sway me in the other direction, towards complete innocence.

2018-10-03 23:07:15 UTC  

Memories aren't very good. People could actually remember things differently than the objective reality. An experiment was done where people were shown a picture of a car accident, and after, many recalled broken glass, even though there was no broken glass in the picture.

2018-10-03 23:08:20 UTC  

It is very possible that she is telling the truth, even if it isn't completely true. Kavanaugh could definitely be who she BELIEVES had raped her because he is the one prominent face she recalls from the night and someone else is the one who actually did it.

2018-10-03 23:08:53 UTC  

True, she claims she's certain but like you say, memories aren't very good

2018-10-03 23:09:36 UTC  

also more relevant for off-topic, the show Maniac on netflix is off the chain. Would highly recommend to anyone

2018-10-03 23:09:48 UTC  

I also now see the irony of saying "relevant for off-topic"

2018-10-03 23:09:50 UTC  

I haven't looked into the topic much but I'd ask if she drank that night, how much she drank, how clearly she remembers any details, etc

2018-10-03 23:10:05 UTC  

I watched Maniac. I thought it was pretty good

2018-10-03 23:10:07 UTC  

There's a lot of details she's super fuzzy on

2018-10-03 23:10:12 UTC  

like, tons of details

2018-10-03 23:10:32 UTC  

I'm rewatching it rn, I like seeing all the familiar faces that I missed the first time through

2018-10-03 23:11:13 UTC  

it's a really small cast so I missed that people had multiple roles throughout

2018-10-03 23:11:20 UTC  

for some people

2018-10-03 23:11:31 UTC  

Being bipolar and having had one particularly bad manic episode, i found some of the stuff he said really relatable in Maniac.