let's be more specific maybe?

large goverment

higher taxes

open borders

sanctuary cities, don't forget about that

that is a large proponent of open borders yes

open borders also relating to terror

Ok but I even see these as being secondary to more core issues. Why are those issues important?

sjw commie libtards lmao

you rang

because at least for us

we believe these things make a country less free and more likely to be under tyranny in some form

I'm English

for example

Cornwall, largely separate from Englands problems

but England has a very large government and bureaucracy that makes fixing problems such as open ish borders a major problem

You know @wahx , you brought up the point "moving towards those goals should be 'winning', not cucking the libs". Unfortunately there's a tremendous bias from libs to whatever trump does (which are wins)

and you know the only way we can get these things done due to the libs being so stubborn

as well as the thinking of a more diverse culture is a better culture, which to a degree may be better

is by a red wave

and there's a tremendous bias from conservatives to whatever trump does... as evidenced by your parenthesis after

but at a very specific percentage

things go from perfectly fine to horrible

thats England

Ok but let's pull back a sec. Redd I think you hit the core thing you're worried about: freedoms being hurt by various factors right?

yes

taxes government being too big and such

Let's say that's a problem, and largely I agree, that should be protected

continue

So we want our citizens to be safe and secure right

exactly

I'm just like establishing the good faith of this conversation, we have the same interests at heart

We want our people to prosper, in terms of health and finances

all of our people, rich and poor yea

yes

At least to the extent of a meritocracy

ok cool

So, we want our people to do great. Awesome. Now, there's the question: does a larger government hamper that ability

I assume via beaurocratic inefficiency...?

I spelled that wrong

Frankly the point is, we can't work together if that's what you are trying to say. Also the libs points are pretty garbage, so stumping them is pretty fun