Message from @Rai

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2018-11-26 02:22:42 UTC  

But I'd say most of it can be chalked up to the teaching style used today. Students get lectured at and try their best to remember it and regurgitate it on an exam, which is not quite how it was even one generation ago. Women are better at school as it is today

2018-11-26 02:24:24 UTC  

It could also be because there are more services, scholarships etc. designed to help women, as well as more women being admitted into college in general equating to more chances for success

2018-11-26 02:24:41 UTC  

Another factor, like I mentioned, is department standards

2018-11-26 02:25:25 UTC  

Liberal arts departments like psychology give extra credit in their courses more often, while STEM, business, and other majors men would do better in hardly ever give extra credit

2018-11-26 02:26:57 UTC  

Studies also show teachers mark girls less harshly

2018-11-26 02:27:20 UTC  

Like I said, bias from instructors plays a role. The bias gets worse if the teacher is female

2018-11-26 02:29:23 UTC  

Therefore I don't find it accurate to say they do better in school, but that others skew the results so they appear to. They aren't gaining that by themselves

2018-11-26 02:29:36 UTC  

No, the actual style is more suited to women

2018-11-26 02:29:45 UTC  

Bias plays a role, but it's not the only factor

2018-11-26 02:30:12 UTC  

Men tend to enjoy learning through experience

2018-11-26 02:30:26 UTC  

The number of degrees that employ this type of learning is very low

2018-11-26 02:32:36 UTC  

I don't deny that the environment and method is more suited toward the way girls learn, but without the bias by itself I do think there'd be a marked improvement to at least bring boys up to the same level. I'll agree that the bias varies and it's not the only factor but it's not like it's a small factor

2018-11-26 02:32:59 UTC  

Yes, I agree, but I also think that many of the factors need to be addressed

2018-11-26 02:33:10 UTC  

Protocols need to be put in place to reduce bias

2018-11-26 02:33:28 UTC  

Other methods of learning need to be incorporated into the education system

2018-11-26 02:33:44 UTC  

More services need to help men, or just everyone neutrally

2018-11-26 02:34:40 UTC  

And more men need to be admitted. Though that might be fixed by fixing the above

2018-11-26 02:35:47 UTC  

Some of the services which are aimed at boys in education also need to be scrapped. The rate at which boys (and some girls too) are diagnosed with ADHD or other disorders and medicated simply for being themselves is way higher than the societal average

2018-11-26 02:36:25 UTC  

Yeah, misdiagnosis of ADHD for just ordinary boyish behavior is a huge problem

2018-11-26 02:36:46 UTC  

The real problem lies with the education system

2018-11-26 02:37:12 UTC  

We need to bring back recess and allow more experiential learning in schools among other things

2018-11-26 02:43:38 UTC  

Very well put. I've also seen the increases in certain departments. Humanities is definitely higher up there in female participation.

2018-11-26 02:43:52 UTC  

But what about philosophy?

2018-11-26 02:46:02 UTC  

What we claim as the intrinsic ability to delve into ourselves, the constructs we create and the nature of the universe. It would seem that the supposed evolutionary advantages should incline more women to participate. But I hardly see anything that's not Feminism based.

2018-11-26 02:47:04 UTC  

Heck, we had two male based ideologies spawn from what it took women 60 years to cultivate. MRA and MGTOW. And technically INCEL if you want to count it.

2018-11-26 02:48:17 UTC  

In all of my days at the university, I have found it such a challenge to get a group of women to sit down and discuss philosophy. Open ended without being forced by a professor.

2018-11-26 02:50:15 UTC  

But if you just give a hand full of cannabis or psychedelics to a group of men and eventually the conversation turns to philosophy.

2018-11-26 02:51:55 UTC  

The point I'm trying to get to: Trying to make a basis of biological evolution for the way that either men or women interact with our current society is folly. There are too many conflicting variables.

2018-11-26 02:52:06 UTC  

I like this

2018-11-26 02:52:14 UTC  

this is,good

2018-11-26 02:52:20 UTC  

good job

2018-11-26 03:10:23 UTC  

I find it preposterous when anyone tries to claim that were growing as a society because of the increased female numbers in higher academia. Are they flocking to the four cornerstones that enhance our society? (Politics: Systems creation) (Economy: Systems maintenance and resource allocation) (Technology: Systems enhancement) (Philosophy: Human improvement.) No.

2018-11-26 03:13:10 UTC  

They are flooding humanities (Definition of what a human WAS) and Medical (Human maintenance). The humanities flooding allows them to start altering the viewpoint of what humans were BEFORE, and use that as a rational of why we should be doing what they think. It’s like if I didn’t like the house I built, so I went back, misinterpreted the blueprints, and sued the builder for doing it wrong.

2018-11-26 03:14:00 UTC  

That is NOT a healthy way to build a society.

2018-11-26 04:10:04 UTC  

@Silver_The_Bard Women aren't evil, just feminists seeking to inject their ideology into completely unrelated fields

2018-11-26 04:10:22 UTC  

I'm sure there are plenty of non-feminist women in the humanities and many other fields

2018-11-26 04:11:00 UTC  

And of course most feminists are completely normal and good people. So a fraction of a fraction.

2018-11-26 04:11:42 UTC  

Indeed, but I still feel that feminists in general are misguided but I'll leave that for another debate

2018-11-26 04:11:57 UTC  

Also, some humanities fields aren't just about the background of humanity or society

2018-11-26 04:12:21 UTC  

Psychology in particular covers the human mind and behavior in general

2018-11-26 04:12:36 UTC  

It's just as applicable today as it is to many years ago