Message from @Tomas

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2018-12-18 18:08:35 UTC  

Then yes

2018-12-18 18:08:39 UTC  

lol

2018-12-18 18:09:41 UTC  

Education is compulsary in some form till 18 now i was led to believe- hence why young people are doing more apprenicships

2018-12-18 18:09:42 UTC  

Well, I mean, 16 would be the end of junior high or first year of high school, so it isn't super far off

2018-12-18 18:10:12 UTC  

But then I'm thinking elementary as being kindergarten through until high school

2018-12-18 18:10:18 UTC  

which might not be accurate

2018-12-18 18:10:26 UTC  

..

2018-12-18 18:10:45 UTC  

The main thing is that GCSEs are something every kid takes, but not every kid takes A-Level, and GSCEs are prior to completion of high school

2018-12-18 18:10:50 UTC  

Is that correct at least?

2018-12-18 18:12:11 UTC  

@Men Are Human I'm certainly willing to budge on accusing feminists of being female supremacist with respect to schooling. That indeed *seems* to be the case. However, this isn't BadgerFeed, I presume this is the sort of thing nonMRM folks are going to be directed to, so if that point is going to be made, I think the point should have a robust argument for it

2018-12-18 18:12:23 UTC  

No, GCSE's are at the end of high school

2018-12-18 18:12:35 UTC  

Some kids arent able to take gcses because it would bring the schools score down so they are put in for other stuff but most are expected to (bet the rate of males v females being expelled from academies is 'interesting' too)

2018-12-18 18:12:39 UTC  

After high school you have sixth form or college

2018-12-18 18:12:45 UTC  

Then university

2018-12-18 18:12:57 UTC  

Oh, okay, but every kid that complete's high school takes GCSEs

2018-12-18 18:13:06 UTC  

whereas many high schoolers won't go on to sixth form

2018-12-18 18:13:18 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-18 18:13:23 UTC  

Yay, I get something right!

2018-12-18 18:14:11 UTC  

That there is a good source for that then

2018-12-18 18:14:20 UTC  

Sixth form / college is optional, high school is not (very simply put)

2018-12-18 18:14:40 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte I absolutely agree, everything has to be as robust as possible.

2018-12-18 18:15:19 UTC  

Only a sith deals in absolutism

2018-12-18 18:15:51 UTC  

Then I object to that on the grounds that it is very, very hard if not impossible to make that a robust point and the closest the article ought to get to that is quoting that UCAS chief person

2018-12-18 18:16:06 UTC  

who is conveniently pretty explicit herself

2018-12-18 18:17:55 UTC  

Yup.

2018-12-18 18:18:17 UTC  

In fact, that quote would make this article a lot stronger.

2018-12-18 18:18:20 UTC  

and yeah, @Tomas males vs females expelled from academies is interesting. The problem is that boys legitmately are more likely to have good reason to be expelled

2018-12-18 18:18:30 UTC  

@Men Are Human The quote is already in there

2018-12-18 18:18:48 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte Sorry. I'm very tired, lol

2018-12-18 18:18:53 UTC  

The paragraph "Unfortunately that does not seem to be the case in the UK." is basically devoted to that quote

2018-12-18 18:19:37 UTC  

@Men Are Human We can continue this tomorrow if you wish

2018-12-18 18:20:12 UTC  

We could have a longish chat about schools not letting boys run around enough

2018-12-18 18:20:37 UTC  

I really do like that bit about boys "zooming around the class like rockets"

2018-12-18 18:22:57 UTC  

I'm glad to hear that. 😃

2018-12-18 18:24:14 UTC  

And thanks for being so patient with me.

2018-12-18 18:25:51 UTC  

Feel free to ask me to get into voice chat on this when you're free, that might be an easier way to discuss some of it too

2018-12-18 18:26:08 UTC  

Many dont have good reason though- parents in my area are struggling with academies illegally excluding autistic kids, across country is an issue- autistic boys and adhd boys tend to need to move more and not be quiet like girls with similar diagnosis in general

2018-12-18 18:27:01 UTC  

I suppose I'm not surprised

2018-12-18 18:27:16 UTC  

Alternative schools eg forest schools or summerhill in the uk manage to bridge the gap?

2018-12-18 20:06:43 UTC  

@asparkofpyrokravte Yeah, but then you'd hear my wierd accent. XD