That and game of thrones hasn't finished yet

Well I've had my flashes since before university. It sucks but I have shit to do

But that's just me.

I don't think it should be illegal which it isn't but i don't think it should be legalised. I think the conversation can change without that change

Safe is a strange word to use for death

But I get it

@InsaneCaterpilla that's true but that's not been my experience

:s

Yeah my bad days are hopeless. Good days I'm like "what was my problem?"

That's an interesting be dynamic

I think it would be unethical to be one without the other

No I was replying to @asparkofpyrokravte not @Abbysol sorry

I think it would be unwise to be an evaluator without at least some counseling

Loopholes... loopholes everywhere

This was to your previous comment. My internet is being flaky

And don't forget stupid

My god some people are as thick as mud

Definitely. Eugenics is like Communism. Good on paper until you read a history book.

Why can't you advertise the discord @PM_ME_UR_PC_SPECS

Debate? Is

"You have been banned from r/menslib" debate?

Watching men care about men makes me all warm inside.

Sepuku? Sudoku? Yahtzeee!!!

I'm not even sure yahtzee is Japanese

I actually reached out to a person who had been asking questions on the men's right sub and had a reasonable discussion. One of the first things she said was how she was surprised we weren't a bunch of raving misogynists and were generally nice.

I mean duuuh. But it's sad that that's the perception

Debate what?

How about this

Have a wank?

Read some feminist literature?

You can't fuck the dog

What do you do normally

https://youtu.be/s4nwKvXbBG0

I fortunately/unfortunately depending how you look at it grew out of that.

I still want a relationship but dating is a flaming pile of garbage.

Hmm. I don't really know. I often had girlfriends which I'm guessing doesn't help. Sport was a big part of my time.

Anything you normally distract yourself with.

Go for a walk and explore.

This makes me rage a little

I had always wondered. I must have missed that.

Hey @Tomas also UK but unfortunately I keep normal hours

Anything in particular that brings you here?

@Abbysol continue. I think @Tomas asleep anyway

Well it was but It's not closed.

"Same question to contestant number two please Paul"

Debate about what implications that observation has for society.

For starters I would disagree with the premise as I have seen women do that.

But even if it's "more true" what does it mean

@Men Are Human depends if I'm losing

Ok an actual topic with defined sides!

WOMEN HAVE IT WORSE

Haha sorry about the caps I was just trying to have a formatted obvious title

Truly intellectual

I feel derailed

New topic with a less divisive start

"should the drop in men's entry to university be corrected by affirmative action"

Well it's generally a surprise when you buy "teacup piglets" and then they grow up into Potbelly pigs

But it's sad that people are a) stupid to buy them and not be prepared and b) to sell them under false pretences

@asparkofpyrokravte in the UK you have to remember the debt burden is no where near as bad as other countries. It's also forgiven after 50 years

Yeah the student loans in the UK are actually fair. You don't start paying it back until you're earning above a threshold.

It still gains interest but it's quite low

It's like £40 a month probably less than. It changes depending what you earn. It's not really making the difference imo

For what I earn which is 2/3 of fuck all

Yup.

I don't pay attention to it. Most my friends don't either

As you say it's just like extra tax

Exactly. The majority of the risk is taken by the government. It doesn't really effect your credit score as long as it's being paid

But I haven't checked that lately

That's what I pay

I don't know about others

Actually it would appear im not paying anything back at all as I don't earn enough. :/

I used to pay 40 when I earnt 22500

My loan is only like 22000

Yup. There losing that bet atm

But anyway

Back to the debate.

Losing men at university does mean losing men in important fields that require a degree to enter. Like stem and medicine.

Medicine definitely counts then

But if we're to go but oppression logic

They have the ability not the opportunity or the right background

The background being as men they were never given all the "women in stem* days

You forget that the other half of oppression logic acknowledges that even if the selection isn't discriminatory it doesn't mean the sum of all of the differences leading up to it don't need to be righted

I'm mostly playing devil's advocate here

Oh absolutely like TREAT EVERYONE WITH EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES

Actually I'm not against righting differences.. to an extent. If it means removing those differences. But I don't know if there should be Lee way given to those effected

For instance class differences

I need to pause but I'll come back

I don't think it necessarily implies you need to enact retribution

Small changes only need small nudges.

Not a complete flip

And I think there is something to be said for adding men to fields like midwifery. The system ATM is a cess pit of bitchery

You gov already proved that 70% of the u k don't know what the wage

Actually means

Which is interesting and does make me wonder how large that 30% is and how many of those are potentially be quiet anti-feminist mra Hibs

Type"

Sorry I'm using dictate as I'm driving

But yeah the fact that 70% don't understand and Feminism is doing nothing to even acknowledge it and even push more misinformation