Guys,
If I would assume that climate change is a big deal and is the fault of all the people, than wouldn't it already be to late to save the earth? I mean when I see all the shit on Instagram like: "O my god, the world is gone within 5 years!!!", then it's just pointless to spend money and effort to save the earth, am I right?

btw, I don't think that its a big deal and it isn't caused by people (for the greatest part)

Which is?

In 1975 (-/+) scientists claimed there was a ice-cold climate ahead of us

Never true

> In 1975 (-/+) scientists claimed there was a ice-cold climate ahead of us
> Never true
Source: https://youtu.be/XB3S0fnOr0M

@Dr.Cosby

What are they saying now then? When will the earth be gone?

do you guys think Trump will be re-elected?

I think he will be re-elected

You're talking about these reports? Well let me give you an example:
https://www.osce.org/eea/14851?download=true

Don't think it's true, do you?

well, what's the reason for those refugees then, if it isn't "the state of the environment"?

@E2D2

and my point was that those reports aren't reliable

thats an example

so try again * uses uno reverse card *

youre just avoiding my point rn

have there been 50 million refugees because of climate yet?

no since 2005

-_-

the climate has been changing since the world existed and will change until the world dies (not because of climate change 🙂)

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/RisingCost/rising_cost5.php
Tell me, what is the first sentence?
`Climate change may not be responsible for the recent skyrocketing cost of natural disasters, but it is very likely that it will impact future catastrophes`

hmmmm... why wouldn't they update it anymore?

will probably

how hypocritic, first you say it's outdated and then you use it as arguments??? @E2D2

tell me: Why wouldn't they update it anymore?

sure

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
Well, 97% of the scientists agree?

watch this with english subtitles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TDLqkYgRGs&t=163s

https://youtu.be/3TDLqkYgRGs try this

> Like me, im republican, but I dont deny that the climate is changing
I agree Solicitor

could you give me the studies @Solicitor

1F higher

no problemos

thanks, will look it through Solicitor

> this video doesn't tackle the more recent declaration that 99% of scientists say that climate change has mankind influencing it, as well as this only discusses the rumor of the 97% tweet and stating that the papers that didn't include the word "mankind" or "global warming" were thus against the claim of climate change
Never heard of 99%

send me the 99%

https://youtu.be/3TDLqkYgRGs english subtitles

@E2D2 what do you say about the polar bear population that has increased?

their population has increased

according to Alaska scientists

they are increasing as well

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im just asking: How is it possible for an increased population of polar bears to occur, while the ice is melting so fast?

they dont live there that much

even then

how can they increase

they have always lived there

now there is a decrease in ice

and increase in polar bears

but why are they moving because of food? why is there more food there?

my vision of climate change isnt focused on the polar bears amount

> why is there more food there?

never said that 😂

quote me

> Like I said, they have been moving further south in search for food for example.
That's your statement, which i was referring to

wasnt a statement

was a question (sorry, i forgot the: "If that was true")

But anyway

my question is: How much percent do people affect the climate?

yes, im dutch 😬

hm, that's like the only important thing to me

and online it says a lot of things

which is true?

how do i know if its fake or not?

i will certainly do

Found this Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record
If you scroll down you can see that the climate has been a lot higher and a lot lower in the (long) past

and why's that

> because wikipedia isn't an actual source, its a webpage written by anyone on the web, and can be changed by almost anyone on the internet. Its not a study or research but essentially a summary of other sources
Including NASA

but okay, ill find another one

wikipedia refers to it

you can't just completely ignore it because its Wikipedia

sure

will search

Exactly @amicuma, its an natural cycle that has always been a thing

If we would assume that climate change would have such an impact, its already too late.
In the Netherlands for example, there's a climate change agreement that will reduce the temperature with 0.004% if not less, and will cost 100-millions if not billions. That agreement contains things like: more solar energy, less cars, everyone should get a heatpump instead of radiators, and a lot of other stuff as well.
Why spend so much time, effort and money to such a pointless and stupid agreement?

https://www.klimaatakkoord.nl/documenten/publicaties/2019/06/28/national-climate-agreement-the-netherlands

Its quite long

The most part of the Netherlands didn't want that deal to be made

Im saying that hard-working people shoudn't be punished because of some weird xeal

Deal*

The results from the "provincial" elections were won by Forum For Democracy, their biggest point is like climate change.

I think people wouldnt vote for them if that had such a big impact

Im from the netherlands ofc

Never known him

No atm im in sweden

But yes i live there

Yes i flew here 🤨

Good morning too

@Dr.Cosby
Well would you be happy if you have to get a heat pump, electric cars, etc.

And every penny spent on this, is less money for reduced taxes, better education, better defence, better salary for police officers or teachers, etc.

Well they could start paying NATO enough, because only the US pay enough, if I'm correct

It's an agreement that everyone pays a certain amount of money

what do you guys think is the solution to this 'problem'?

do you think she'll ever get a real job? lol

did you guys know that Trump didn't start a single war, but Obama did multiple?

and Obama put out way more people out of the USA than Trump did

he isn't allowed, right?

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> I hate socialists.
don't know what this is about but I must say I agree