Because they have a disadvantage in society

Right?

They're not really

if IQ is based on genetic

As mean as it sounds, it would just mean they're dumbed and can't achieve as much

How

How

Racism?

Mmh

Well let me try to explain my point of view

We concluded that black people are being treated unfairly by society because of the following reasons

They are as intelligent as other races

but for some reason, statistically they don't achieve near as much as other races

Therefore, they must be treated unfairly

But

if it's in their genes

Then it's another story

true but the argument would be weak

There is

I didn't say race caused IQ

I said race was correlated with IQ

correlation does not equal causation

you're mistaking it not me

I didnt say causation

but having melanin is correlated with lower IQ

correlated

does not cause

It means there are reasons

it could be 100% environment

Yes

But from what I've seen from the conversation and you can tell me if Im wrong

Youre saying that even if genes cause low iq, it wouldn't change anything for you

And you wouldnt remove affirmative action

Are you doing academic research?

If not why do you think so

Not you

the other

MoxyProxy

made a dumb statement

So you would replace people with more potential just so lower IQ people are happier?

Which was rooted in nothing but emotions

therefore dumb in my opinion

If it's rooted in emotions yes

No if it's not rooted in logic then yes

Actually I would argue no @Yiddlemethisgoyim

"based off of experiences and people I've met"

that's a useless statement in my opinion

it doesn't bring any value

it's not scientific

You don't realise they helped me see where we disagreed

I never stated that

I didn't take a position based on my emotions

If I don't have empirical data, I don't have a position

Fetty let me try to explain it to you

If you think IQ is linked with genetics

It's really not far stretched to say some race are superior to others

If it's linked 60-80% as you claimed before

Where would you disagree

P1: There seems to be differences in IQ between race
P2: IQ is 60-80% caused by genetic factors
C: Some races have genetic factors which gives them a better IQ

I don't agree with that by the way

Im trying to say that if you believe IQ is genetically based, then you're almost here

?

What other premises

Yes that's a good argument

But I believe there may be studies linking IQ with success in life

It wouldn't surprise me if there is a strong correlation

I don't have studies but I'm pretty sure it's one of life's biggest predictor of success

Along with EQ

And what does it mean?

You shouldn't have a high IQ because it's linked with mental illnesses?

The article just states that it is linked but it might be a low correlation

most likely

On the other hand

IQ has a strong correaltion with life success

Shouldn't we take the risk and aim for higher IQ?

Life success meaning producing value to society

@Komrade Kam me or tech?

Well of course it depends how you define life success

My main problem is that he's not consistent

He seems to be emotionally attached to the issue

I wouldn't go that far

But it is surprising he wouldn't aim for a higher IQ society

I could argue for a socialist economical system without a revolution?

I mean here in Canada for example, we shifting to a more socialist view of the economy

And without a revolution

You can go policies by policies

Im talking the economical system

No

It's on the left

Tax rate is quite high

Many public services are subsidized

Im not saying were socialist

but were shifting

Im claiming your nation can become socialist slowly

without a revolution

Why the fuck would you argue for a revolution

I'm saying it's more likely to happen that your revolution

Can you be realist for a moment?

Are you really arguing for a revolution?

@Billcat Not based on scientific evidence