Message from @lemonsaw

Discord ID: 573318812448063501


2019-05-02 01:21:42 UTC  

We concluded that black people are being treated unfairly by society because of the following reasons

2019-05-02 01:21:55 UTC  

They are as intelligent as other races

2019-05-02 01:22:15 UTC  

but for some reason, statistically they don't achieve near as much as other races

2019-05-02 01:22:20 UTC  

We didn't conclude this

2019-05-02 01:22:24 UTC  

Therefore, they must be treated unfairly

2019-05-02 01:22:29 UTC  

But

2019-05-02 01:22:33 UTC  

if it's in their genes

2019-05-02 01:22:39 UTC  

Then it's another story

2019-05-02 01:22:55 UTC  

Once again its perfectly possible to mistreat low IQ people

2019-05-02 01:23:02 UTC  

and further disadvantage them

2019-05-02 01:23:19 UTC  

true but the argument would be weak

2019-05-02 01:23:21 UTC  

There is zero evidence that *being black* affects IQ.

2019-05-02 01:23:28 UTC  

There is

2019-05-02 01:23:30 UTC  

There is no research on it.

2019-05-02 01:23:33 UTC  

Show me.

2019-05-02 01:23:36 UTC  

Melanin doesn't change IQ

2019-05-02 01:23:44 UTC  

ancestry perhaps can

2019-05-02 01:24:02 UTC  

but even if so, IQ goes up with each year of education

2019-05-02 01:24:10 UTC  

I didn't say race caused IQ

2019-05-02 01:24:11 UTC  

thus demonstrating IQ is elastic.

2019-05-02 01:24:16 UTC  

I said race was correlated with IQ

2019-05-02 01:24:17 UTC  

and not inelastic.

2019-05-02 01:24:32 UTC  

correlation does not equal causation

2019-05-02 01:24:33 UTC  

Political class and IQ are also correlated

2019-05-02 01:24:53 UTC  

Doesn't mean much

2019-05-02 01:24:59 UTC  

But correlation is mistaken for causation. Widely.

2019-05-02 01:25:09 UTC  

you're mistaking it not me

2019-05-02 01:25:23 UTC  

You need the casual mechanism

2019-05-02 01:25:30 UTC  

Hi

2019-05-02 01:25:33 UTC  

and i'm sorry someone having melanin isn't going to change their IQ

2019-05-02 01:25:42 UTC  

I didnt say causation

2019-05-02 01:25:51 UTC  

but having melanin is correlated with lower IQ

2019-05-02 01:25:55 UTC  

correlated

2019-05-02 01:25:59 UTC  

Sure

2019-05-02 01:25:59 UTC  

does not cause

2019-05-02 01:26:01 UTC  

So what

2019-05-02 01:26:06 UTC  

means nothing

2019-05-02 01:26:14 UTC  

If I, a reasonably educated individual, can be misled by a poor discernment of correlation vs causation... imagine what a low IQ individual would take from our debate... or the points of someone utilizing evidence to push an agenda.

2019-05-02 01:26:15 UTC  

Ignored <:kek:538084230408830987>

2019-05-02 01:26:21 UTC  

It means there are reasons

2019-05-02 01:26:27 UTC  

Sure