@Techpriest I still need a source showing that individual ownership of the means of production has always existed

so you can't claim this peaceful shift as a transition to socialism without Canada even becoming socialist in the first place

I'm saying it's more likely to happen that your revolution

Can you be realist for a moment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_Civil_War

Are you really arguing for a revolution?

English Capitalist revolution

"individual ownership of the means of production has always existed"

is that your definition of capitalism?

Who said that

you

As for the race discussion, it can be broken down with a simple analogy regarding nature vs nurture, with a glass of water. Nature is the empty glass, while nurture is how much water is poured into it. At a genetic basis, each person has a different capacity for learning, and the way this person is raised would be the nurture. For most functional humans, the difference between an IQ of 110 and 120 isn't very apparent in day to day life, so nitpicking over it is relatively pointless, especially when the higher rate of crime that minorities commit can be explained by a toxic culture that promotes and glorifies gang violence, hustling, bangin' hoes, and the idea that evil whitey is out to get you.

Individual ownership of the means of production is Capitalism

So, TL:DR, Culture > Race

ok

@Komrade Kam

answer me tehse questions

https://www.history.com/topics/france/french-revolution

What is the oldest profession in the world?

Revolution of Capitalism in France

@Billcat Not based on scientific evidence

Oldest profession is hunter

GG @Komrade Kam, you just advanced to level 9!

What's to say IQ does not cause toxic culture and crimes in the first place

not exactly

How so??

It's a proverb that people use

and there is a strong correlation between IQ and life success

The oldest profession in the world is ______

Is it not prostitution then?

That proverb isn't true though, it's a proverb for a reason

Ofc but prostitutes have existed in prehistoric times

Because we have both blacks and whites of varying IQs who are successful regardless of IQ? On average, certain races may not be as smart, but the difference is a very gradual climb and not a sharp cliff

And Prostitutes do indeed individually own the means of their own production

It's a bellcurve, you will find genius black people

If you compare the life of a person with an IQ of 90 and that of a person with the IQ of 150 then of course you'll see a radical difference, but the vast majority fall into the meaty middle

But, hunting existed prior. And, the food would then be shared with the tribe

no one is claiming every black people is dumb

Depends on how you defined a tribe

Ok I'm pretty sure we agree on everything

If the number is very insignificant, then they're more likely to share.