Message from @lemonsaw

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2019-05-02 01:16:56 UTC  

But you are stopping people with more potential achieve better

2019-05-02 01:17:05 UTC  

Make more classrooms

2019-05-02 01:17:09 UTC  

or more universities.

2019-05-02 01:17:15 UTC  

Then you're not advocating for affirmative action

2019-05-02 01:17:44 UTC  

I am, I'm advocating for the advantaging of certain groups of people on a political basis.

2019-05-02 01:18:08 UTC  

Because they have a disadvantage in society

2019-05-02 01:18:11 UTC  

Right?

2019-05-02 01:18:15 UTC  

I'm saying black people will have to go through things irrespective of their IQ's, in which, would make it harder for them to make it through school

2019-05-02 01:18:38 UTC  

and as such, I'd use the admissions process as a means of equalization due to this.

2019-05-02 01:19:00 UTC  

They're not really

2019-05-02 01:19:05 UTC  

if IQ is based on genetic

2019-05-02 01:19:29 UTC  

As mean as it sounds, it would just mean they're dumbed and can't achieve as much

2019-05-02 01:19:32 UTC  

You can have IQ be genetic and still recognize that black people are treated unfairly.

2019-05-02 01:19:41 UTC  

How

2019-05-02 01:19:54 UTC  

No I actually wouldn't be for affirmative action if "black people" were factually inferior mentally. Because its not other race's fault for their genetic inferiority. However, all of that is bullshit because black people, if black people are defined by the color of their skin and not their ethnic background or dna, have no evidence supporting their mental inferiority.

2019-05-02 01:20:15 UTC  

A low IQ white person wouldn't be disenfranchised as much as a low IQ black person

2019-05-02 01:20:21 UTC  

This is unfair treatment

2019-05-02 01:20:26 UTC  

As such, you'd work to equalize it

2019-05-02 01:20:37 UTC  

How

2019-05-02 01:20:39 UTC  

Affirmative action is simply the recognition of unfair treatment

2019-05-02 01:20:41 UTC  

Racism?

2019-05-02 01:20:44 UTC  

Its not dealing with race and IQ

2019-05-02 01:20:50 UTC  

Mmh

2019-05-02 01:20:50 UTC  

this is true.

2019-05-02 01:21:04 UTC  

Racism typically isn't justified on the basis of IQ, just them being outside of their out group

2019-05-02 01:21:06 UTC  

Affirmative action overlooks context in my observation.

2019-05-02 01:21:18 UTC  

Well let me try to explain my point of view

2019-05-02 01:21:42 UTC  

We concluded that black people are being treated unfairly by society because of the following reasons

2019-05-02 01:21:55 UTC  

They are as intelligent as other races

2019-05-02 01:22:15 UTC  

but for some reason, statistically they don't achieve near as much as other races

2019-05-02 01:22:20 UTC  

We didn't conclude this

2019-05-02 01:22:24 UTC  

Therefore, they must be treated unfairly

2019-05-02 01:22:29 UTC  

But

2019-05-02 01:22:33 UTC  

if it's in their genes

2019-05-02 01:22:39 UTC  

Then it's another story

2019-05-02 01:22:55 UTC  

Once again its perfectly possible to mistreat low IQ people

2019-05-02 01:23:02 UTC  

and further disadvantage them

2019-05-02 01:23:19 UTC  

true but the argument would be weak

2019-05-02 01:23:21 UTC  

There is zero evidence that *being black* affects IQ.

2019-05-02 01:23:28 UTC  

There is

2019-05-02 01:23:30 UTC  

There is no research on it.