@Thinky yes, that's what it boils down to. you have to rely on absolute proof that what these authoritative figures are putting out are real, not really proof

it's on you to prove that they are real

you have to rely on NASA words that they are real and guess what, they have lied in the past

@Thinky it always boils down to putting faith in what the organization said or posted the picture is truth, putting faith in something is not proof

besides nasa has lied in the past, an informative source that lies once has its credibility ripped off

i should've approached this ''how is the picture taken of the satellite true'' i can agree with you. the point is that these pictures requires a lot of faith in an organization that lied/deceived people in the past

my problem is that Authoritative figure A can make any extraordinary claim and make it irrefutable, since the people have no way of disproving nor provingg it there's no way it should be real and used as evidence for such but people will still use it as proof

we agree that the iss is out there but not the other satellites, the iss can be observed but not the other sattelies. to what it's properties or if it orbits the earth is that is for debate

@Thinky yeah, what i didn't hear is your backing of the picture that the satellite is there

those small satellites? you can see them with a telescopee?

are there any articles or guide videos that have stated they've seen and how to like with the iss?

@Thinky how to observe the small satellites (KH-11, KH-12) like the iss, there are multiple article of how can you see the iss and videos. i was just wondering if this was also the case for the KH-11, KH-12

the KH-11, KH-12 aren't observable?

@Superiorna_Artiljerija Are there any articles or evidence that suggests how to track them?

That's not enough for me, there's an ISS tracker which you can observe it. Is there the same evidence for the ISS as the KH-11, KH-12?

what satellites other than iss are observable AND are there any articles or videos that shows you how to? i've repeated the question 3 times now and all i got was yes and a picture of the satellite

article or video that shows you how to track them?

like the iss?

it's just a picture, until i can get a substantiated article or video that shows you how to track them it's safe to assume that they aren't there .

https://www.space.com/34650-track-astronauts-space-new-interactive-map.html this is a substantiated article that shows you how to observe the iss and a link to where you can track it. i still haven't gotten one for those small satellites that you claimed were there besides a picture of them

http://www.isstracker.com/ here's the tracker

i want the same for the small satellites that you claimed were there, no pictures please that's not enough evidence for me

@TheNidhugg if you claim that it's real and it exists then we should be able to observe it, all i got was pictures from astronomers which i have no idea of know they are real or not. what i can know is real is if i can observe it through me own telescope

@TheNidhugg i'm talking about the small satellites, have you ever observed them?

important thing is that there is no measurable curve, earth remains flat and stationery. if they had a $150 billion budget then i assume they can run out a u2 spy plane with a hologram to depict the iss, there's also time to refuel it (night time when there is no lunar phase present)

have you seen the iss livestreams? complete fakery

they lie about their expenditure and take out all the profit

50 million a day to make space pictures and videos for the iss livestream in advance, so much cost /s

@TheNidhugg no because the government is also on it

comparing the expenses of war to making a bunch of space pictures and underwater astronaut videos 😂

if nasa is fake then everything is fake! jesus how brainwashed are u kids, let go of your fantasies

bunch of trolls, nasa is just like the church in the middle ages. they could spew out anything about being divine and knowing what is real and people would believe in it because it's an authoritative figure

it's worse than the church because it claims its on scientific grounds

i'm gonna make a prediction, the nasa plan to go the moon will be delayed and eventually cancelled by the next administration just like it did with raegan and bushs administration but u blind space-lovers would still place absolute faith in them

thank you

he was a troll

@nesymerp1 how many more lies would it take for u to still believe in nasa?

he's a troll

look at what he said

we're not telling u to believe in flat earth

only to be critical of nasa and other authoritative figures

what is attached to your ceiling does not define what your standing on

it's a planetarium where all the stars revolve around us. the earth is the floor of the universe

they didn't

nasa lied to you bud

do you know about the rat on mars?

if nasa makes a claim like "we went to mars" that isn't observable, we dismiss it until there is contrary evidence of it

also it's safe to assume that an organization is false when it has lied once, their credibility gets shattered

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/6105902/Moon-rock-given-to-Holland-by-Neil-Armstrong-and-Buzz-Aldrin-is-fake.html

the footstop of the astronauts on the moon wouldn't have left a trace like it did, there's no moisture on the moon according to nasa. debunked by their own beliefs 😂

yeah, the earth is flat without a doubt. the horizon never curves

@Thinky one that is as extreme as this do

apollo astronauts claiming that space is deep black while iss astronauts claiming that they can see space full of stars

@Thinky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdcdxvNI1o

we aren't talking about cameras, we're talking about what they saw with their own eyes

they should've seen space full of stars but they claimed otherwise

why don't you research flat earthers before saying that it's bs?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtdcdxvNI1o people still believe in nasa even after they lied on national tv 😂 pick one, either you see space full of black or you see stars.

why are there so many trolls in here?

get out

@Thinky do you got evidence that they included the curvature of earth on the bridge?

we don't know what's beyond antarctica, it's off limits to everyone except (((authorized individuals)))

@nesymerp1 there's nothing to suggest that the earth has a core like you were told

0 evidence

@That Sick 🅱astard you idiot, it's a guided tour just like north korea guides. they don't let you freely explore it

why are there so many trolls here

@That Sick 🅱astard and my dad is an astronaut and my mom is super woman 😂

@nesymerp1 this channel isn't for debate

it's to inform you what flat earth is

we don't know what's beyond antarctica and can't assess if it's an infinite plane or not, it's kept hidden for a reason

there are no commercial flights going over antarctica

3 days after this picture was taken, 2 were found dead in that region https://www.newser.com/story/268522/2-workers-die-in-unexplained-accident-at-us-antarctic-station.html

isn't it amazing that the bible 2000 years ago was right about all this? amen

@Thinky observations that follow suit to the 8 inch per mile square curve, which doesn't happen in reality

yeah sure, there's a reason they are delaying space exploration as much as possible. it's not like they canceled space travel in the last 2 presidential administrations. how much do u bet they will cancel the 2024 moon exploration plan?

happen with bush, obama and raegan

how many more broken promises by nasa will it take for you to believe that they are full of sh*t?

spacex is subsidized by the public and by nasa 😂 it's only 10% private

4000 years of going through endless space at 1.5 million km an hour and constellations are still the same ever since

go away trolls this is not for debate

Nasa - Masters at pathological lying

this is a good one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CExKhu7yrgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpCxTldokmw

this guy has flat earther as his role and he's trolling

@TheNidhugg

Hexmask is spitting out facts. Do you know how much the mental illness known as transgenderism has caused suicides?

@Thinky It plays a small role compared to the meds they take which causes extreme depression and leads to suicide.

@Hexmask 💯

no matter how delusional you are and think you're a female when you're a guy, it won't change the fact that you were born with xy chromosomes

@Thinky Think about it logically, if a people rate of suicide was solely relied on environmental factors there wouldn't be any jews. Jews have been way more hated than transgender people in history and not ever have their suicide rates become 1/10th of the transgender community.

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