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You may judge me.
hope you've been drinking/smoking when you endulge in this kinda "stuff"
Well you got some of that right.
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Alright, @✧Mike Flatbird (Mike Blackbird)✧ has been warned because '**Posted an invite**'.
oh, i didnt know what that was lol
i just seen that "discord . gg" come into my server too -- moments ago
cray cray Smh..
lol though ..sorry CitZ lol -- wasnt intentially posting an invite x D
make me goldsteel
good god he puts those memes which a 3rd grade teacher could debunk
or attention seeking
only dueling scars are cool
i get you
i haven't really heard of those, since i live in india and you'd be socially ostracised for just being gay
so yeah it's pretty well straight here lol
you're from the UK right?
well, at least it isnt illigal ot have gay sex at least
i wonder how many more messages he will post in a row, currently 32
wow some of his stuff is just distasteful
i just blocked it all
in a row
so. fucking. jobless.
the entire screen is blank since more then 50 block messages in a row
good god, discord really has opened my eyes into what cockshit people believe in
and i thought the whole FE thing was a joke lol
wonder if we will get to 100
wow i just blocked him
and it's so much cleaner
it's like ive cleaned my cupboard while sitting on my ass doing nothing lol
he's crossed 100 in all
Out of ammo
he's come here too *insert wailing emoji*
I am disappointed, only 89 in a row
155 spam messages thpugh
@Human Sheeple I will be putting most of those in my aresenal if you don't mind my borrowing the material!
um 3/4ths if not all of these have been debunked.
look for more credible sources, if you want to change people's views about the earth!
@dumblebore 🌈 Do you really believe that people would put themselves in the line of fire of persecution and endure much loss over something that has no merit in truth?
i hardly think the government is going to assassinate loony FEs for saying what they say. so the whole "line of fire" thing is a bit too extra.
one man's truth is another man's cock and bull
@dumblebore 🌈 I am talking about people like you. Verbal fire can be just as destructive. Many, including myself have been abandoned by those that we love for even questioning the Main Stream narative of our Cosmology.
Truth is truth! Once you know, returning to a lie will never be an option!
It sucks that you've been abandoned by people you love
it's rather late here
@Goldsteel I would say tumblr is about as respresbtive of the average LGBT person as 4chan or 8chan is to the conservative
im going to be off to bed
Get a better timezone bumbledore
id rather not have daylight saving soz
Oof u win
Dang u good at this whole reading and comprehension thing
In my experience thus far in sharing the truth of our reality and the Flat Stationary Earth, those that think more of themselves than they ought are the most stubborn, abusive and hurtful ones to converse with. If the person you are conveying the truth to lives in a place where they inwardly narrate their intellectual supperiority to others, remain with the expectation to be ridiculed, demeaned, and dismissed.
I think this is true on both sides
Humbleness is a virture
Well for once I’m on the flat earther sode
that continent doesn’t look real at all
pictures from space never look real
They never will look real buhaha
In some cases, pictures from high altitude are manipulated heavily and then presented as being pictures from "outer space".
What high altitude in particular?
all pictures of earth and other planets are almost always CGI images
if they are trying to get the entire globe into a pic, its a fantasy image or a painting from an artist
NIKOLA TESLA 2.0
Future of the globe is bright. Globes will move from table to trash cans or to ceiling, for decoration.
websites and twitter presence for waking people up
wake up, you been decieved
Did giants really exist?
Short answer: no
they wouldnt have been able to support their own weight
i mean the tallest guy in modern history had to walk around for a cane for most of his life and then was bound to his wheel chair before he died
i mean it would of be possible to get abnormaly tall humans and they would probably look even taller at a time when every one was so short.
l m a o
Prime meridian was moved from Giza: http://blog.world-mysteries.com/science/the-great-pyramid-earths-natural-prime-meridian/
International Cartographic Association: https://icaci.org/
Vortex Maps: http://www.vortexmaps.com/hagens-grid-google.php
Magnetic Declination Calculator: https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag-web/#declination
The Chinese believed the Earth was flat until the 17th century when Jesuit missionaries arrived in China, were hired as astronomers at the imperial court and convinced the courts and scholars that it was a sphere.
Christopher Cullen, “Joseph Needham on Chinese Astronomy”, Past and Present, No. 87. (May, 1980), pp. 39–53 (42 & 49)
Christopher Cullen, "A Chinese Eratosthenes of the Flat Earth: A Study of a Fragment of Cosmology in Huai Nan Tzu 淮 南 子", Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies, Vol. 39, No. 1 (1976), pp. 106–127 (107–109)
There are also Chinese records going back over 10,000 years, disproving the Young Earth Creationist narrative.
Oh sure there is
Why do you believe everything you see
So you're willing to choose one piece of evidence that supports your worldview but ignore another that contradicts it.
Hey dumbass when did i say i believed any of that bullshit
Sick of your bullshit
Everytime we post something you repeat the same bullshit
Im guessing that lad is banned?
No he left
Its not logical for hard working ppl to not want to give their money awak in taxation?
why are they not bullshit?
Justify your point
You are trying to elude the topic of how your belief system was created
Why are they?
Maybe if you spent your own time trying to prove your belief system, you might get some answers you're looking for
Astronauts put a retroreflector on the moon so anyone with a high powered laser could shoot it at the retroreflector would have the laser bounce back to earth.
Pretty sure it still stands on the moon to this day.
There is different types of eclipses. First, solar eclipses, I think it is the moon blocking the sun, which I believe could be possible no matter the earths shape. Some eastern cultures believe it's another dark body like Rahu that is blocking the sun and that the moon is actually behind the sun. 2 reasons for this. 1. They believe there should be earth shine reflecting from the earth back to the moon and so we should be able to see the moons face, but we don't. 2. If it was the moon blocking the sun then the edge of the moon they believed would show as rough with craters and mountains but to them was smooth with no rough edges. Next, lunar eclipses, I've not been able to explain really without speculating myself. I've seen some interesting things about them. The shape of the shadow varying is interesting as it's not always as curved as they say it is from what I've looked at. Before people scoff at this line of questioning about lunar eclipses they should take into account that all eclipses have been predicted before the globe model was invented.
The theory of a round earth is based off the fact that the moon has a curved shadow on it and we can't see the sun so it was assumed that it was the earth that was casting the shadow. The issue with that is that there is what is called Selenelion eclipse, which is when the observer can see the sun and the moon in the sky above the horizon at the same time, which means its impossible for the earth to be casting the shadow onto the moon, also the shadow is seen coming from the top down, which is weird because the observer would assume the shadow should be coming from the bottom. The color of the lunar eclipes turning red is very odd, considering the earth has a bright blue aura. It's thought the light scatters to a red color but if thats true then the moon should get a blue aura, then red, then blue again as it passed through earths shadow, but we only see the change from normal moon colors then to red.
U asked about eclipses
No one is exactly sure. As no one has ever seen the moon approach or leave the sun
Have you heard of the saros cycles
NASA used this old method to predict eclipses
Hows it possible for Polaris to stay perfectly above the north pole if we are tilted and spinning on an axis and orbiting the sun.
The game is rigged with this matrix
The deceivers point to evolution and a ball earth because they are atheist or lucifarians
90 degrees minus 23.4 tilt = 66.6
isnt polaris in line with the earth's rotation
The most likely explanation is that they both rotate at similar relative speeds.
Polaris sits as our north star and hasnt moved from that spot. How is it it possible that it never moves for thousands of years if the earth is hurtling through space
Earth is just water and clouds
And wtf are they doing up there?
Getting tangled in front of a gree screen 😁
I'm making an FE bot and I want it to have answers to things that newcomers/trolls ask when they first join like what is stopping us from falling off the edge to what is gravity on flat earth if you want to help with a question ping me. It doesnt need to be all the
questions just one if you know the answer (I know the answer to most
of these just different points of view) thanks!
Questions: (Think of them most starting with: If the earth is flat...)
1: What is the 24/7 live feed then?
2: Why do we see curves?
3: Why are all of the other planets round?
4: Why doesn't the Flat Earth get pulled into a sphere by gravity? If gravity doesn't exist, what makes things fall?
5: Why would the government lie about this?
6: Why don't we fall off the edge?
7: Why haven't we gone to the moon if the first one is so fake?
8: How do satellites work?
9: Do flat earthers all believe the same thing?
10: Can only religious people believe in flat earth?
11: How do the seasons work?
12. Why can I see stars that are by necessity further away from me than the sun, but not the sun? For example stars on the low northern horizon at midnight.
13. How can Antarctica be bathed in 24 hours of sunlight for months in the southern hemisphere winter as an ice ring while still only covering half of the Earth in light?
14: How do eclipses work?
15: How far is the sun?
16: Does space disprove flat earth?
17: How does the FE model explain meteors, given that they're made of rock?
18: How does GPS work, if GPS depends on satellites?
19: Why do ships appear to disappear behind the horizon, and why doesn't zooming in on them make them show up again?
20: If the ice wall broke somehow, would the water spill out? (Yes this is a common question lmao)
21: Does FE have an 100% accurate model?
22: Why do sunsets happen?
23: Is Australia real?
24: How do timezone work?
25: How close are the moon and sun to FE?
And but not least
26: Why care about the shape of the earth? Flat or globe it is still earth.
1. Not sure. Do you guys have a livestream?
2. You only see curves because of the structure of camera lenses and the refractive indices at different temperatures and pressures depending on altitude. Etc....
3..other planets are round circles because that's how we observer them.
4. We only know the effects of gravity not the cause. If anyone knew what gravity was then general relativity wouldn't be a theory anymore.
5. We dont know exactly who is lying. Most government employees most likely just believe the heliocentric model. For those that are lying, there could be many reasons but we could only speculate. More land, more resources, free energy, hide knowledge, power, money and ultimate control over minds. Its reasonable to look at evidence before a motive so i try to stay away from these kinds of speculative answers.
6. There is an edge?
7. If they had to fake the first moon missionsx the obvious answer is they cannot go there at all.
8. Satellites could be high altitude balloons such as project echo or newer type tech such as high altitude platform systems or just high altitude drone aircrafts. Pretty sure NASAs balloon program is as big as there rocket program. Must use a lot of helium.
In the figures June and December, the white represents the Suns position in hos respective months, at Noon. This shows Sunlight inside the Arctic circle for 24 hours. From June 21st the Sun move around the Tropics in a spiral circle, widening every day, until it reaches its destiny on the southern or outer Solstice, on December 21st.
On December 21st the Sun moves around the Tropic of Capricorn, and during the day lights up the southern portion of the Earth from the Arctic Circle and some portion of Antarctic ice. There is no "sunlight" Beyond 80° south, but unknown regions of ice. On the 23rd of December the Sun commences his northward journey again, returning to his starting place and thus completes his seasons.
12. The Sun is most likely at a different altitude than the stars. Due to perspective, the Sun being closer to the ground, it will disappear then all that is left is stars.
13. Ice is very reflective. The problem is we dont actually know if the entire "ice ring" is lit up. We only know what areas they told us are lit up.
14. Saros cycles predict eclipses and were invented around the 4th century BCE. Its possible the Moon blocking the sun creates the solar eclipse, but no one has ever seen the Moon approach or leave the sun. Some eastern cultures believe it's another dark body like Rahu that is blocking the Sun and that the Moon is actually behind the Sun. 2 reasons for this, 1. They believe there should be Earth shine reflecting from the Earth back to the Moon and so we should be able to see the Moons face, but we don't. 2. If it was the Moon blocking the Sun then the edge of the Moon, they believed, would show as rough with craters and mountains but to them was smooth with no rough edges. Next there is what is called a Selenelion eclipse, which is when the observer can see the Sun and the Moon in the sky above the horizon at the same time, which means it's impossible for the Earth to be casting the shadow onto the Moon, also the shadow is seen coming from the top down. The color of the Lunar eclipes turning red is very odd, considering the Earth has a bright blue aura. It's thought the light scatters to a red color but if thats true then the Moon should get a blue aura, then red, then blue again as it passed through Earths shadow, but we only see the change from normal Moon colors then to red.
Lunar Eclipses are still somewhat of a mystery for the flat earth model. Possibly its just some type of fluorescence happening.
15. According to Eratosthenes experiment the Sun, if you reverse the assumptions from a round earth to a flat earth, then the Sun would triangulate to around 3000 miles high. That being said, no one really knows how far the sun is, imo.
17. Ive never seen a meteor hit the ground. We also do not see meteors travel directly upward from below the horizon. Im not even sure shooting stars hit the ground. Id like to see a film of one impacting the surface.
18. Ships appear to disappear from the bottom up because of optical slant. The angle the light is coming to the eye or lens. The closer the observer is to the ground, the more shallow the angle is to the target. Light will blend together as it reaches the .02 degrees angular resolution limit.
19. Gps uses ground towers, ocean buoys, geostationary balloon satellites and high altitude altitude platform systems.
20. No one knows what is further than the ice shelves other than what we have been told.
22. Think of your Z axis, a line out from your eyes in any direction. And so if the sun were on our eye line, it would go away from you like a train and it would shrink shrink shrink, but its not on our eye line, the sun on a Flat Earth moves parallel to the ground so therefore it moves perpendicular to your eye line. So as it's going over you, it's not going to shrink. Eventually because of the gradiant slope the observer is looking from, the Sun starts to disappear from the bottom up till it is gone. all the light melds with the surrounding surface and the angular resolution of the eye or lens (they work the same) will begin to lose the object (in this case the sun) until it is unresolvable
24. Time calculator
25. Not exactly sure. But think about this. Zoom in on a building 5 miles away and then compare that to zooming in on the moon. Then think about how far the moon is.
26. Humans always want to know the most difficult questions. The most difficult questions are where did we come from? Who made us and our home? What exactly do we live on? How does it work?
1. All pictures of the earth from space are admitted fake.
2. We're able to see objects such as land, buildings, boats that are supposed to be behind the "curve ".
3. NASA and Obama says we can't leave low earth orbit.
4. The North Star never moves and the constellations have never changed ever.
5. Weather balloon footage and footage from airplanes show the horizon to be flat and always at eye level.
6. All of the astroNOTS that supposedly landed on the moon would not swear on the Bible.
7. Water is always level and it makes up 70% of our earth.
8. NASA gets $50,000,000 a day.
9. Operation Paperclip nazi Germany helped form NASA.
10. The heliocentric model was created by freemasonic devil worshippers.
11. Air bubbles viewed in "space".
12. AstroNOT almost drowning in "space".
13. Scuba tank viewed in "space".
14. Density and buoyancy no magic gravity.
15. Gravity strong enough to hold the oceans to the earth yet birds and planes fly with ease.
16. GoPro lenses used to fake the "curve" of earth.
17. No observable proof of evolution.
18. Sun rays come down in angles and not parallel.
19. Moon light is always colder then moon shade.
20. Super zoom cameras show that boats do not go over any curve.
21. Neil Degrasse Tyson says the earth is pear shaped.
22. NASA caught faking a photo of the earth on the way too the moon.
23. More than one light source during the moon landings.
24. The UN flag is a flat earth map.
25. It took Captain Cook 3 years and 60,000 miles to circumnavigate Antarctica.
26. Underground cables and ground based towers used for our communication.
27. Flight paths only make sense on a flat earth.
28. All but one challenger passengers are still alive today.
29. NASA caught using green screens.
30. No 24 hour live feed of the earth from space.
31. No actual photos of satellites in space.
33. Sun dogs
34. Antarctica treaty
35. Admiral Byrd said that there is more land.
36. The Michelson–Morley experiment proved the earth is stationary.
37. Auguste Piccard the first man to reach the stratosphere said the earth is a flat disk upturned at the edges.
38. The sun and the moon in the sky at the same time.
39. Rockets never go straight up.
40. Bedford level experiment.
41. Tesla's real scientific findings.
42. Our own senses tell us that the earth is flat and stationary.
43. The sun and moon appear to be the same size.
44. The globe model was created 500 years before NASA.
45. No one has ever circumnavigated the earth from north to south only east and west.
46. Sun dials.
47. All the "space" agencies across the land share the same vector logo.
50. No parallax with the stars.
51. Time lapse shows the stars makings perfect circuits around the North Star.
52. Bolivian salt flats.
53. Sun appears smaller near the horizon.
54. We only see one side of the moon.
56. Air planes fly level and don't account for the curve.
57. We've only been able to dig 8 miles into the earth yet they say we have a molten core.
58. The top of the moon being illuminated during a eclipse.
59. Stars visible thru the moon.
60. Faked videos of 24 hour sun in Antarctica.
61. Uranus smells like farts.
62. Antikythera Mechanism
63. Submarine parascope
64. Earth Shape changes because of climate change.
65. Operation Fishbowl
66. Operation Deepfreeze
67. Operation Highjump
68. Project Paperclip
69. Radar waves.
70. The shadow of Mt. Everest has straight lines and does not curve.
71. Millions of brainwashed people think they have seen curvature.
72. Kansas is measured as 'damn Flat".
73. Pre Seismic wave data from the kola super deep borehole.
74. No demonstration of precision maneuvers in a vacuum chamber here on earth.
75. Beams found behind hubble sts 82 video.
76. Mars lizard
77. Tamarack Mines plum Bob experiment.
78. Earth warps in official ISS video.
79. Moths in space
80. World record long distance photography.
81. Airys Success
82. Redbull jump. Texas is HUGE, Fisheye lens.
83. Satelloons (project echo)
84. USGS says if uplift didn't take place, earths surface would be reduced to a single flat plane from erosion.
85. Disney and NASA collaboration.
86. Von Brauns headstone.
87. Pluto on Pluto
88. Orions Belt lined up with the pyramids for over 4500 years.
89. We see the big dipper year round.
90. Amateur footage of planets and stars.
91. Geostationary balloon satellites & High altitude platform systems.
92. The Abyssal plains cover more than 50% of the Earth’s surface. They are among the flattest, smoothest and least explored regions.
93. Angular Resolution
94. Danyang–Kunshan Grand Bridge in China
95. Heliocentric Masonic math
97. Kubrick & NASA collaboration
98. NASA demonstrates storms rotating both directions north of equator during 2017 hurricane season.
99. Corrected fisheye lens footage from high altitude shows a flat horizon
103. Selenelion Eclipse
104. Freemason Buzz Aldrin photographed on earth infront of the same hills shown from the Apollo mission.
105. People lie about coriolis effect in equador.
106. Electromagnetic field locking (explains levitation)
107. The blatant disregard for life during Apollo. (Performing stunts in a vacuum?)
108. Light (day) and dark (night) at the same time.
109. Light doesn't travel infinite.110. Bad somersaults on the ISS
111. Lost starman (can connect wireless communication to lunar landing party but lose a supposed car next to earth?)
112. NASA demonstrates north/south terminator lines. We can observe east/west terminator lines.
113. Heavy oil fuel bans
114. The military created Artificial Radiation Belts.
115. Seasons do not make sense on a globe.
116. We dont notice the eotvos effect when driving across America in either direction.
117. The supposed west to east 1000mph rotation of the ball earth does not effect the Narmada river in India, which flows AGAINST the assumed sphere earths assumed rotation.
118. All ancient cosmologies depicted the earth with a level surface and a firmament.
119. The bible says repeatedly the Earth is geocentric, stationary and enclosed in a solid dome structure called the firmament.
120. The difference in biodiversity from the Arctic and Antarctic
121. Angles of Parallax exist only in the minds of the observers; they are due to instrumental and personal errors.
122. Tycho Brahes death and the multiple times his body was exhumed.
123. Cosmic microwave background radiation
124. Submarines do not account for curve.
125. Flat Earth facts are strong and are backed by empirical observation.
126. The Gleasons map explains timezones for a Flat Earth.
127. CGI was created before apollo
128. From the Apollo photography, the landscape on the moon is not continuous, but with clear lines of separation.
129. Rob Skibas experiment of Atmospheric Lensing.
130. Cavendish experiment does not prove the official theory of universal gravity.
131. Gravity is not the same everywhere on earths surface.
132. Gravity is missing in the Hudson bay.
133. CERN omits gravity.
134. Copernicus measured the sun to be 3,391,000 miles and thought Jupiter was second farthest from the sun.
135. Eratosthenes sticks myth is the worst globe proof ever.
136. Globe believers have more imaginary theories than they even realize. dark matter, dark energy, black holes, singularities, event horizons, wimps, mond, machos, neutron stars, gravitational collapse, gravitons, gravity waves, quantum gravity, inward pulling gravity, gravitational lensing, gravitational constant, schwarzchild radius, gravitational radiation, frame dragging, general relativity, anti-gravity, virtual gravitons, quantum field theory to name just a few, are in fact false and mythical.
137. Amphidromic points
138. lucifer Telescope
139. Disregarding gravity being able to hold everything down while we travel thru an infinite vacuum at high speeds. Half the speed Haleys Comet supposedly goes. If haleys comet goes 157k mph and we go 66k. (Just one motion) why no earth tail?
140. In experimentation, GE cannot create a high pressure system connected to a low pressure system without a solid barrier separating the two.
141. Solar Analemma is wider in the south.
142. Globe trolls think video games prove a spherical Earth.
143. Neil degrass tyson says that you cannot see earths curvature.
144. The red bull jump shows the horizon does not drop with altitude.
145. Virtual and augmented reality.
146. Pole to pole 2018 flight scam.
147. The narmada river is over 800 miles long, it goes from approx 3000 ft elevation down to sea level and runs against the supposed east west rotation of the earth. Why does it never reverse course?
148. The human eye. Gradiant slope. Optical slant and airy disks. What do they have in common? They confuse confused globies who dont understand how light works.
149. The analemma golden ratio
150. NASA says the flat earth model is more desirable than the complex spherical earth model.
151. Moon casts a 280+ KM reflection in a straight line.
"I respect your religious beliefs, I hope one day you decided to confirm the globe with first hand evidence and realize it's wrong. We all started like you did, a triggered person in a cult because we had the same mainstream cosmology shoved down our throats in early childhood, I'm sorry for your cognitive dissonance and we'll pray for you! Have a lovely day or night."
ISPRS Istanbul Workshop 2010 on Modeling of optical airborne and spaceborne Sensors, WG I/4, Oct. 11-13, IAPRS Vol. XXXVIII-1/W17. http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1-W17/5_Yilmaz.pdf
Look at the clouds
Globies you dont actually believe that right?
What's that from?
Gemini first space walk
You think they fired retro rockets while they were orbiting during a space walk to change the trajectory of the the craft?
They would of had to according to the cloud movements there
They lie to us
Globies need to get with the program
Stop being dumb
I'm sorry babe I can't help it
Willing to change my mind though
Just look at that shit
Remember they are trying to fool us
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