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2019-12-31 22:42:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #flat-earth]  

Greetings @bubblegum

2019-12-31 22:43:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well, depends on how you define flat, does it not?

2019-12-31 22:43:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Wouldn't it be more accurate to claim it as an erratic plane?

2019-12-31 22:44:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Due to the presence of vast peaks and falls within such a space

2019-12-31 23:03:08 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Motionless realm?

2019-12-31 23:03:16 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What is realm describing, exactly?

2019-12-31 23:56:34 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And why refer to such as a firmament?

2019-12-31 23:56:57 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is space, heavens, or sky insufficient?

2019-12-31 23:57:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I am curious about definitions, in particular, so my interest is very much peaked.

2020-01-01 00:00:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Seems unlikely, in truth.

2020-01-01 00:06:03 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Which law of Thermodynamics states that?

2020-01-01 00:06:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I can think of the 1st, but it seems rather unrelated

2020-01-01 00:06:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Creation or destruction of energy in an isolated system does not in turn deny the possibility of an area with no inherent atmospheric conditions

2020-01-01 00:07:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or, in other words, some kind of fluid for transmission of light

2020-01-01 00:07:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What was once suspected to be the aether

2020-01-01 00:08:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Could, but that tends to defy laws of Thermodynamics

2020-01-01 00:08:17 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Specifically the idea of an infinity of malleability

2020-01-01 00:08:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Whilst being able to bear the brunt of any and all universal forces or eventualities

2020-01-01 00:09:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It has to be able to withstand compression from other planetary bodies, after all.

2020-01-01 00:09:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What does your research budget focus on?

2020-01-01 00:09:36 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I suspect non-astronomical phenomena

2020-01-01 00:09:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

What of meteorites?

2020-01-01 00:10:01 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or asteroids?

2020-01-01 00:10:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

The former of which being more prolific in their scale and scope

2020-01-01 00:10:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

So you believe that they do not exist, I presume?

2020-01-01 00:10:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

No, but one careening down tends to give a decent impression.

2020-01-01 00:11:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is it improbable to suspect that there may be rocks or such entities from the 'firmament?'

2020-01-01 00:11:31 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I am curious because I don't wish to presume a given stance

2020-01-01 00:11:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well, haven't we all as individuals given witness to very few phenomena?

2020-01-01 00:12:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I personally have not been murdered, but would still thusly suspect that it is an unpleasant experience.

2020-01-01 00:12:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well, Rods of God was a program requiring orbital platforms

2020-01-01 00:12:49 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Do you believe it was an actual program, or possibility?

2020-01-01 00:13:45 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And what are they?

2020-01-01 00:13:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is it not possible to be a kind of ordnance?

2020-01-01 00:14:06 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Akin to, say, Mk. 20 Rockeyes

2020-01-01 00:14:52 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Possible, satellites decay orbit all the time after all.

2020-01-01 00:14:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If we are to accept them as true.

2020-01-01 00:15:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Of note, I tend to think Rods of God, while interesting, was far less ambitious than Brilliant Pebbles

2020-01-01 00:15:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That was a very interesting program

2020-01-01 00:16:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Well, the altitude would have to be excessively high

2020-01-01 00:16:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And unfortunately, few aircraft could carry that quantity of WHA high enough to have any appreciable impact

2020-01-01 00:17:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Far from it.

2020-01-01 00:17:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

WHA is an incredibly dense material after all

2020-01-01 00:17:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Problem is carrying it indeed.

2020-01-01 00:18:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

They were designed to reach terminal velocity before impact

2020-01-01 00:18:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Then it fails to produce adequate effects

2020-01-01 00:18:47 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

WHA, while dense, would need to be of a sufficiently large size to produce nuclear fallout on impact.

2020-01-01 00:19:05 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

For a similar concept on a smaller scale, see LOSAT

2020-01-01 00:19:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

While effective, it was also not nuclear.

2020-01-01 00:19:33 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

At a certain point...

2020-01-01 00:19:44 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It is more useful to just use traditional nuclear ordnance

2020-01-01 00:19:51 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or fire up a few TRIDENT IIs

2020-01-01 00:19:54 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Or MMIIIs

2020-01-01 00:20:39 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

On an unrelated note, and if you don't wish to answer feel free to let me know, but you stated that you receive research grants, IIRC, for what purpose is your research for?

2020-01-01 00:20:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I am curious, especially if there are some interesting developments you could discuss.

2020-01-01 00:22:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Fair enough.

2020-01-01 00:23:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you were to receive a budget though, do you suspect that some people would still not believe you regardless of your findings?

2020-01-01 00:24:20 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Indeed, it may be a loop of sort that as soon as any department receives funding, be it government or not, accusations of conflicts if interest may arise.

2020-01-01 00:24:26 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Ah, high altitude balloons

2020-01-01 00:24:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I know a thing or two about those, granted that project was never fully greenlit.

2020-01-01 00:25:56 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Moon cooling?

2020-01-01 00:26:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Very much true. FAA also get all over your case about it

2020-01-01 00:26:28 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Not high-altitude balloons though

2020-01-01 00:26:38 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Violation of FAA airspace could cause an accident

2020-01-01 00:26:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

At the very least, there would be extreme fines

2020-01-01 00:28:37 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I will note, in fairness...

2020-01-01 00:28:42 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If we are to use claimed figures

2020-01-01 00:29:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

34 miles in altitude is only 0.4% of the Earth's diameter

2020-01-01 00:29:40 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

On a tangent though

2020-01-01 00:29:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I know a bit about rocketry.

2020-01-01 00:29:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

At the least, Astronautics.

2020-01-01 00:30:55 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

That is important indeed.

2020-01-01 00:31:22 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It is flexible, but it also lacks the weather versatility of rocketry.

2020-01-01 00:31:32 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

See the USS Shenandoah

2020-01-01 00:31:43 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

A bit of apples to oranges, but the message holds true

2020-01-01 00:31:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I think Rad is correct about cost analysis being incredibly important

2020-01-01 00:32:12 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It was always the first thing we did, ever before getting to the design phase

2020-01-01 00:32:25 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

PDR was after the first stages of design.

2020-01-01 00:33:02 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Absolutely they do.

2020-01-01 00:33:15 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I haven't interacted with NASA myself

2020-01-01 00:33:19 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

But I have with BO

2020-01-01 00:33:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

And Nanoracks

2020-01-01 00:33:53 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If no one's opposed, I would like to post a photo, but only for a brief moment.

2020-01-01 00:34:14 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

If you are looking for private grants, try and find investors

2020-01-01 00:34:23 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

It is relevant to rocketry, at the least

2020-01-01 00:34:48 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

I've cropped out our badge as well, so it is just the rocket

2020-01-01 00:35:07 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Oh

2020-01-01 00:35:10 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Cannot post

2020-01-01 00:35:13 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Lack permissions

2020-01-01 00:35:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

My bad

2020-01-01 00:35:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Is there somewhere I can post it?

2020-01-01 00:35:50 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

To you too.

2020-01-01 00:36:59 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

When you get back, let me know and I can do that.

2020-01-01 00:37:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

For now I need to charge my phone.

2020-01-01 00:37:11 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Laptop's power supply combusted.

2020-01-01 00:37:21 UTC [The Ice Wall #civil-debate]  

Same to you.

2020-01-01 01:54:58 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Does spelling it in caps make it more of a point? I'm not making any sweeping claims, just doubting the veracity of the video.

2020-01-01 01:55:27 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

It seems like the claims were taken out of their context as should be presented, and distorted to portray a particular message.

2020-01-01 01:55:46 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Just doesn't seem sufficient as an end-all-be-all claim.

2020-01-01 01:57:04 UTC [The Ice Wall #vaxx-discussions]  

Also, I am pretty sure that thimerosal is not used in most modern vaccines, regardless of if it was even a dangerous substance in the first place.

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