Anastasia

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2019-08-21 15:21:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@DrRisen: "I love freedom"
Also @DrRisen: "?mute @Solid Sar 3d"

2019-10-05 07:52:19 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@ShinySilver3
I didnt block you.

2019-10-05 07:52:45 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I sent you a reply and the bot said you blocked me.

2019-10-05 07:53:25 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

That's more shady than shiny.

2019-10-05 23:02:07 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@ShinySilver3
You're an idiot.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492157062797590531/630177932266045475/Screenshot_20191005-170106.png

2019-10-05 23:03:33 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

And you weren't being polite. You started out "polite", but then turned into all!of the things you claim you weren't.(since you seem to like to use screenshots, I can too. should I show everyone where you become the thing you say you aren't?) Jesus.

2019-10-05 23:05:20 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Your analogy is an insufficient one.

2019-10-05 23:13:42 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

How big is your apartment? Because over here in Discord, there are (in some cases) thousands of people in your apartment.

2019-10-05 23:14:21 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

If you're going to use a house or apartment analogy, try to be realistic.

2019-10-05 23:17:21 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Unless you're screening EVERY SINGLE PERSON individually for explicit consent, then you're relying on implied consent. In other words, you aren't sure that EVERYONE agrees with the rules. Which means you make the assumption that everyone has, and let them in (actually, to be more realistic, they just walk on in the front door). So, when you see a huge turd in your sink, you can only blame yourself for being an irresponsible ",owner,"

2019-10-05 23:17:44 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

And any true anarchist (AKA freedom lover) would NEVER rely on implied consent.

2019-10-06 01:50:36 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@Phobia yup. Spoken like a true statist.

2019-10-06 06:23:47 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

One more time...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492157062797590531/630289080986370058/Screenshot_20191006-002325.png

2019-10-06 06:23:53 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

You stupid fuck.

2019-10-06 06:24:39 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492157062797590531/630289300205994024/Screenshot_20191006-002420.png

2019-10-06 06:25:55 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I didnt block anyone. So, don't accuse me of anything. And I don't think trying to send a message, but it being blocked is my fault, so stop with the condescension.

2019-10-06 06:26:20 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast OK, now your just an obdurate douche

2019-10-06 06:27:25 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Nope. Sorry. Only a true moron would accuse me of not knowing what I'm doing when he admits it's a discord issue. You can't get much dumber than that.

2019-10-06 06:30:02 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@Phobia
And if youre going to try to spread lies for some reason, you should tell the real story about disenthrall. The why not tell everyone the previous 50 posts where he painted himself in a corner and couldn't ",disassociate" when he had the chance. Oh,and the fact that disassociation is not the same as imposing an involuntary hierarchy. To think they're the same is something frauds would think.

2019-10-06 06:31:04 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast
"Discord was dropping messages for many people
You are both fucking incapable twats"
You
Stupid
Fuck

2019-10-06 06:32:01 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
"@Anastasia there is no logical difference in the way property works between apartment leasing and a bubbled social media website...*
I just showed you how there is a logical difference. Please rebut instead of saying " I told you so".

2019-10-06 06:33:18 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast
Why don't you either contribute something relevant or you can continue to show how incompetent you are.?

2019-10-06 06:38:29 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Please explain how you would let he public at large into your apartment. And then when you do that, please explain how you plan on getting explicit consent from everyone who enters. And please explain what you limit is for capacity and how you plan on enforcing it and then please explain how any of those are what is going on in Discord.

2019-10-06 06:39:20 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Or, do u just rely on implicit consent to let thousands of people into your apartment.

2019-10-06 06:40:08 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast
When you speak out of both sides of your mouth, most people call that duplicitous.

2019-10-06 06:40:54 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Ummmm.....no.....YOU brought up the apartment analogy. So, let's look at it as an apartment.

2019-10-06 06:41:29 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@ShinySilver3
Why don't you scroll up and review your comments. You've shown yourself to be unworthy of debate.

2019-10-06 06:44:42 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast it is when can't show how I have dome anything incompetent. Trying to send a message and being blocked for whatever reason is no indication of incompetence. However, accusing someone of being incompetent, without proof, is.

2019-10-06 06:46:01 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Excuse me, you came up with the apartment analogy, I rebutted. You countered, then I did. So.......

2019-10-06 06:46:54 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I already explained that. Oh boy

2019-10-06 06:48:25 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Youre right. They are two different things. So, what are you trying to say.

2019-10-06 06:49:17 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I already told you.

2019-10-06 06:51:28 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

One is an apartment and one is a server.

2019-10-06 06:52:08 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Please explain how you would let he public at large into your apartment. And then when you do that, please explain how you plan on getting explicit consent from everyone who enters. And please explain what you limit is for capacity and how you plan on enforcing it and then please explain how any of those are what is going on in Discord.

2019-10-06 06:53:21 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Ownership involves responsibility of the property as we'll as those invited guests.

2019-10-06 06:53:44 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
Does the contract say you can invite the public at large in?

2019-10-06 06:54:31 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

And how can you control your guests when you don't even have explicit consent?

2019-10-06 06:55:18 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Like I said, any anarchist worth their salt would NEVER accept implied consent. It's coercion.

2019-10-06 06:57:26 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Um. No. You brought up the apartment. So, let's look at what an apartment is. You seem to think you can open the apartment door and let anyone and everyone in and you can control them all, when there is no proof whatsoever that you can impose any involuntary heirachy over them.

2019-10-06 06:59:08 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@Phobia
So many people have commented on how you poison rooms with your insults and distractions and zero evidence. You have shown to the silent readers how they can't stand a chance of learning anything in any server you are in

2019-10-06 06:59:40 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@T3CHN01200
I'm sorry. But you brought up the apartment. I like to use realistic analogies..

2019-10-06 07:00:15 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implied consent. Your argument is invalid.

2019-10-06 07:00:53 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

it's so funny. You use statist arguments when it suits you and then revert to freedom arguments only when it suits you.

2019-10-06 07:01:37 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Nope. Your actions are the evidence. Duh.

2019-10-06 07:02:22 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Nope. It's poor. Poor quality.

2019-10-06 07:02:36 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implied consent is coercion.

2019-10-06 07:02:52 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Typing is an action, idiot

2019-10-06 07:03:57 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Because I didn't give consent. You just assumed it and now you are attempting to enforce a contract that you implied I agreed to.

2019-10-06 07:04:22 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

How could I give consent to something I didnt agree to?

2019-10-06 07:04:29 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Sure is.

2019-10-06 07:05:26 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Imposing an involuntary heirarchy over someone (because they didnt consent) is coercive.

2019-10-06 07:05:50 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Your assumption of their consent is not consent.

2019-10-06 07:06:07 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

It sure is.

2019-10-06 07:07:35 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Prove that I consented. You can't. Also, if you want to get explicit consent, you have to ensure that the user has ACTUALLY consented. I can assure you that when I get invited into a discord server there is NO consent needed.

2019-10-06 07:08:13 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Prove that I consented

2019-10-06 07:08:16 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Prove it

2019-10-06 07:08:28 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Show me where it says so, other than your assumption.

2019-10-06 07:09:20 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implicit consent makes the assumption that one agrees. Yet there is no factual evidence that shows that.

2019-10-06 07:09:48 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast
I see. Resorting to insults. And you thought you were e above that.

2019-10-06 07:10:30 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

@unwoundtoast
That is addressing your question. It's impossible to prove implicit consent factually

2019-10-06 07:10:41 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Unless, of course, youre a statist.

2019-10-06 07:11:17 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

It's not relevant because you say so, isn't enough.

2019-10-06 07:11:57 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I just did.

2019-10-06 07:12:22 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implied consent is necessarily coercive for the reason I described. It's not tough.

2019-10-06 07:12:54 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

"You have yet to prove that implicit consent is necessarily coercive"
Sure did. Wow.

2019-10-06 07:13:12 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Drunk?

2019-10-06 07:14:15 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

"You just quoted my challenge?"
Then....."Thatโ€™s not a quote"
Then......"I never said that"
Hmmmmm.....

2019-10-06 07:14:57 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I will give you one chance here to tabula rasa

2019-10-06 07:15:13 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Can you opt-out of implied consent?

2019-10-06 07:18:23 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

But that's social contract. You're using the thing so must agree to the rules. That's an assumption and cannot be backed by factual evidence. And since I didnt have to agree to any terms to enter into a server or discord, to enact new or unknown rules after entering is coercive.

2019-10-06 07:18:49 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

It's a public forum.

2019-10-06 07:18:53 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Not an apartment.

2019-10-06 07:19:21 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Believing in social contract is what makes statism exist. Plus, its unprovable.

2019-10-06 07:19:47 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Show me where I consented.

2019-10-06 07:19:58 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Murder isn't discord.

2019-10-06 07:20:05 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Discord isn't murder.

2019-10-06 07:20:14 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I prefer to stick to the facts at hand.

2019-10-06 07:20:37 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Unless were talking about murder, I see no reason to talk about murder.

2019-10-06 07:21:38 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Unless your point has something to do with discord, I don't see the relevance.

2019-10-06 07:21:53 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Subject matter, and all that.

2019-10-06 07:22:19 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Yet you're trying to conflate murder with discord. But that's collateral

2019-10-06 07:22:58 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implicit consent is what statists use to exert coercion over people.

2019-10-06 07:23:16 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

But, implicit consent is an assumption that one agrees to the rules.

2019-10-06 07:23:33 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

It is impossible to prove factually

2019-10-06 07:23:49 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

And does not allow one to not agree to the rules.

2019-10-06 07:25:58 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

The only way to enforce implicit rules is by coercion, simply because the one being involuntarily imposed upon didnt explicitly agree to rules.

2019-10-06 07:27:05 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

That's because it is an assumption of acceptance.

2019-10-06 07:28:12 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

A person cannot agree to anything they don't understand explicitly. It would be a fraudulent contract.

2019-10-06 07:28:38 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

There is no binding contract with implicit consent.

2019-10-06 07:29:07 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

They cannot enforce the non binding contract without using an involuntary hierarchy.

2019-10-06 07:30:14 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Implicit consent is by it's very nature coercive because it can't be enforced. To claim that it is a contract is the coercion.

2019-10-06 07:31:56 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Because if the one trying to enforce the contract, is using a nullity, the very thought of it being an enforceable contract is coercion.

2019-10-06 07:33:03 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Illegitimate enforcement is grounds to classify a thing as coercive.

2019-10-06 07:34:00 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Unenforceability means no there is no contract.

2019-10-06 07:36:12 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

To what? That implied consent isn't a contract? Yes. Implied consent also implies enforcement to a statist. (One that uses might makes right)
Implied consent IS enforcement.

2019-10-06 07:36:43 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Please explain.

2019-10-06 07:38:15 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Why do you reject it?

2019-10-06 07:38:37 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

Explain your claim.

2019-10-06 07:39:31 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I'm not talking about men and women. I am talking about discord.

2019-10-06 07:40:48 UTC [Antico Debates #initiate-general]  

I am talking about whether implied consent is coercive in Discord. Or YOU fuck off.
Savvy, mate?

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