Message from @Anastasia

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2019-10-06 07:30:14 UTC  

Implicit consent is by it's very nature coercive because it can't be enforced. To claim that it is a contract is the coercion.

2019-10-06 07:30:29 UTC  

Unenforceability is coercion?

2019-10-06 07:30:36 UTC  

Is that your argument?

2019-10-06 07:31:56 UTC  

Because if the one trying to enforce the contract, is using a nullity, the very thought of it being an enforceable contract is coercion.

2019-10-06 07:32:13 UTC  

Is unenforceability grounds to classify a thing as coercive?

2019-10-06 07:33:03 UTC  

Illegitimate enforcement is grounds to classify a thing as coercive.

2019-10-06 07:33:22 UTC  

Agreed, but again, implicit consent is not the enforcement thereof

2019-10-06 07:33:29 UTC  

Will you admit this or not?

2019-10-06 07:34:00 UTC  

Unenforceability means no there is no contract.

2019-10-06 07:34:17 UTC  

Will you admit or not?

2019-10-06 07:36:12 UTC  

To what? That implied consent isn't a contract? Yes. Implied consent also implies enforcement to a statist. (One that uses might makes right)
Implied consent IS enforcement.

2019-10-06 07:36:28 UTC  

That implication is incorrect

2019-10-06 07:36:31 UTC  

I reject it

2019-10-06 07:36:43 UTC  

Please explain.

2019-10-06 07:37:26 UTC  

I reject that implicit consent confers enforcement, and unless you consider yourself a statist by your logic, I presume you agree

2019-10-06 07:37:42 UTC  

Ergo I believe you’ve called your own arguments herein irrelevant

2019-10-06 07:38:00 UTC  

Because you agree that implicit consent is not the enforcement thereof

2019-10-06 07:38:12 UTC  

Ergo implicit consent is not coercive

2019-10-06 07:38:15 UTC  

Why do you reject it?

2019-10-06 07:38:21 UTC  

Because it is incorrect

2019-10-06 07:38:37 UTC  

Explain your claim.

2019-10-06 07:38:57 UTC  

Implicit consent does not necessarily beget enforcement

2019-10-06 07:39:06 UTC  

Consider the case of the man kissing his wife

2019-10-06 07:39:31 UTC  

I'm not talking about men and women. I am talking about discord.

2019-10-06 07:39:53 UTC  

If you’re not talking about whether implicit consent is coercive or not, fuck off

2019-10-06 07:40:10 UTC  

@Anastasia savvy?

2019-10-06 07:40:48 UTC  

I am talking about whether implied consent is coercive in Discord. Or YOU fuck off.
Savvy, mate?

2019-10-06 07:41:06 UTC  

Does the location change whether it is or isn’t coercive?

2019-10-06 07:41:15 UTC  

If not, it’s an irrelevant distinction

2019-10-06 07:41:23 UTC  

Says you.

2019-10-06 07:41:35 UTC  

If so, I reject the posit on the grounds it is the relativists position and is thus untenable

2019-10-06 07:41:38 UTC  

Because I said so isn't a very strong position.

2019-10-06 07:41:55 UTC  

Why is it relevant if the location does not change it?

2019-10-06 07:42:02 UTC  

Burden is upon you to show relevance

2019-10-06 07:42:36 UTC  

Why is such a distinction necessary supposing location is irrelevant?

2019-10-06 07:43:18 UTC  

Relevance of a discussion about discord? Hmmmmm..... I'll guess anything to do with implied consent of a discord server would be relevant.

2019-10-06 07:44:05 UTC  

A location other than discord, would need to be shown to be relevant. So.. .....

2019-10-06 07:44:32 UTC  

It’s relevant because location does not impact whether implicit consent is necessarily coercive

2019-10-06 07:44:54 UTC  

Otherwise is the relativists position

2019-10-06 07:45:14 UTC  

Does it though? I mean, in your kissing example. How do you know there wasn't explicit consent?

2019-10-06 07:45:33 UTC  

There can be