@Guss I read your txt - I'd like to throw in my 2 c

ok so, I personally think the whole SSGH thing is silly and wont work (even without your info about scams etc) - but I think it can be used as a political angle

I mean even if they didnt run a scam, they have no chance

BUT this could be a useful opportunity to take advantage of

well in that sense, that helps a bit - in a way I'm happy the more infighting there is hehe

but also

Cant the boers try to start working towards self-determination like the list you mentioned in the drier Karoo areas

The whole SSGH is just a feint under which to achieve this goal

if ssgh is legit, then its still fine, if not, also fine

@Guss What do you think?

Yup, but I don't think it need to come to that

It should take a long time for them to gain any tracktion - if they ever even do

But until groups of boers can be self-sustainable, this can be used as a "safety cover"

hmmm yeah i wonder hehe

hi @The Burn

@Gonzo guss made a decent argument that SSGH are scam

oh there it is

oh yeah believe me in know

yeah, not that I am sure of his intentions, BUT, I'm not sure our gov is a dependable source lol

I mean they always just push own agendas, not ppl - as far as I'm concerned any case

anyhow, I guess we'll just see how things play out.

Freedom movement anthem 😄

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8E4KBACCOM

not so much for choir thingy lol

I love Erika so much!

well, just speculating - there is a difference between criminal behaviour and racism, for example:

calling someone a "baboon" is racist and hurts feelings / putting someone in a coffin is criminal behaviour

With "drop-off" you're still experiencing gravity - orbital forces - so you stay relative to earth

OK, but one question - why does the spherical earth theory explain all observable phenomena (like sun/moon/star movement patterns)?

But there is no workable flat-earth model

The earth is tilted lol

um lol

Do you even know how it works?

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-the-poles-experience-6-months-of-continuous-days-and-nights

50% always illuminated = yes it is ...

6 to 6 all coutries = no the earth is tilted

Have you built a little model to test it?

have a look

"all countries" - no man, the ocean gets a lot of sun

go build a model then we talk again

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/physics/148-people-in-astronomy/history-of-astronomy/general-questions/995-who-and-when-discovered-that-the-earth-s-axis-is-on-a-23-degree-tilt-intermediate

Off course - all knowledge is fundamentally theoretical

Why is there no working model of flat earth?

I've looked at a few, then lost interest

none of them made sense

Is that one a working model?

I don't expect to see a curvature when I look out the window - I'm guessing, but I'd have to be something like 1000 x bigger to see it. You can't "see" axial rotation - that's like saying - "can you see my love/hate for you?" You CAN however see the effects, like day and night. When I jump off a building I can experience the effects of gravity. What do you mean with "absolute evidence" - your last sentence doesn't make sense.

But anyways - we can chat again later! I have to go get some work done 😄

You can tag me some responses if we should continue the discussion

@Hotwire yeah I agree with you - FE is just there to waste ppls time - more important things to address !

@Deejay from Earth so you're saying if you can prove FE you've got the smoking gun to the lies ppl have been fed all their lives?

yes rob!

exactly my problem with FE

Yeah but there are far better topics that does the same

@Deejay from Earth about the horizon - I think someone should build a 3d scale model in CAD or sketchup with correct relative distances, so that we can see if that is true or not

I think people keep on underestimating the curvature and relative sizes, for example, the atmosphere is just a thin little sliver on the surface of the earth

yeah when I have time ... like I said, you keep referring to to watch some long ass videos, this is just a ploy to waste ppls time methinks

did durham do a good scaled earth model?

its totally not worth it

well then, since I've not seen any good proof of FE, I'm moving on 😄

@Sheamus definitely !

ok, then when I've time, I'll have a look

ok, name one point of the gyroscope

the things I've seen about gyroscope doesn't disprove sphere

those gyroscopes autocorrect

@Sheamus yes do it! 😄

the aeroplane ones

that they always mention in this example

those had to be corrected by pilot

remember even radical aeroplane movement disrupts it

yup

so you know where the ground is lol

😃

@rob this shows gyroscope correcting mechanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTXTCqMHyhg

"level" means a horizontal plane to the perpendicular of the centre of the earth (relative to your position)

oh yeah rob good point - but see that's why the gyroscope arguments are useless either way

I read somewhere - can't find it now, that the WWII gyros had to be readjusted by eye and had by pilot

hand*

guys you see - this is why i don't do FE - takes too much time

but everytime I've gone down a road, it was proven nonsense

why can't the FE ers provide a working model

when they can I'll look at it again hehe

man yeah that's another dinger

lol no dejay, you're moving relative to the earth

those were debunked as well

what would be cool is if we could find a really good laser

that doesnt disperse a lot over looooong distance

then send it from one ship over flat water loooong distance

and see on other ship if the laser is higher

yeah, but some of the laser tests were flawed

woah are we spelling/grammer nazis here 😄

its cool I'm just joking

yeah you FE'ers are pretty wacky 😄

Malcom why is the Vierkleur not there with the flags?

@Malcolm the Seceder (sorry miss-spelt your name )

hehe yeah I thought so, just pulling your leg a bit 😄

yup I saw - that's great! I just love the Vierkleur 😄

Yeah, it's just emotional connection you know, it's pretty bland

That's very nice @Conscious Caracal

hehe @Malcolm the Seceder I don't think I can objectively say - All I want is that flag to fly again 😄

But it's refreshing to find an Inglesman like you that is so "openminded" 😉

Anyhow - I have to go make food - chat a gain later guys -> hope you get a lot of twatter followers @Malcolm the Seceder

hehe I would, but I avoid twatter like plague

I'll rethink my position on this though - Have seen some awesome twats from Willem - very entertaining

hmmm yeah , kinda starting to think the same

anyhoos, I really have to go make food, I'll follow you if I spin up the twatter !

laters!

Stefan Molynox het ook 'n interessante onderhoud gehad met 'n vrou wat hierdie kommunistiese indringing in Amerika nagevors het

baie goeie video

so waar

die ergste is as mens probeer om vriende en familie wakker te maak - maar hulle kyk net CNN BBC Wash Post Huff post etc

:/

@Gonzo ekt nog altyd die indruk gehad dat boere nie regtig polities savvy is nie - hulle is meer soos mense wat dink aan ingeneurs tipe probleme en oplossings - maar ek dink die nuwe generasie kan dinge verander, dit is net belangrik om kultuur op te bou en jongmense sterk te maak

Dan kan hulle politieke probleme aanvat

Wel die wereld het baie gekompliseerd geword en dinge verander so vinnig - kyk nou kan mens so baie inligting kry deur die internet, dis eintlik 'n goeie tyd nou

miskien vroeer kon mense nie regtig aandag gee aan goed nie - 20/20 hindsight, dis maklik om nou te judge met al die inligting wat so maklik besikbaar is

@TruthCanary dis eintlik snaaks hoe mense gedink het toe die Berlin Wall val dat kommunisme verby is - so naif lol

Jordan Peterson is fake 😄

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

they say so

Arcade thats true but what about political subversive actions specifically to benefit Israel?

yet a boer can regocnise a boer when they meet

lol

Daar is n Cape Exit thing ook

apart van khoi koning

Klipkop hoe sal mens die seccesion doen?

deur n politieke party?

lol so jy wil wag dat als uitmekaarval?

ek stem saam tov dat partye nie die pad is nie tho

vertel vir ons jou manifesto

😄

yay storietyd! hehe joke net

(geen sarkasme nie - ek wil regtig hooe!)

hy tik!

Arminius remember we have hate speech laws in SA

I don't think our constitution is effective enough - its just paper

DA and ANC are two sides of same coin

hehehe

well they were decent before, not so much now

yeah i did DA because they were effective then

this time around i doubt i will

lol

in SAFFA you dont enjoy gulags, gulags enjoy you

are there any scenarios where the khoi king can succeed?

with seccession

so the blacks will just run over them politically?

what if all the coloureds and whites in cape stand together?

@Guss very true yes

I didn't get past 3 mins - saw where it was going and thought - no thanks lol

well - I read the comments and clearly the poor dude is lost

I hope he extracts himself

from the situation

its depressing

Off course, that is why this stuff happens and that is the whole point = destruction of the West

you won't find the info on the net tho - I think, most stories are by word of mouth

oh yeah

Those are current day civilisation problems

for everyone all over the world

Yeah ek weet mens wil nou prakties wees met hierdie probleem - maar dit alles is omdat witmense in SA absoluut polities "disamred" is

"disarmed"

geeesus dis scary

ek glo

lol @Rendier dis mos net memes

Iemand wat op die grond kontak het met die armstes kan dalk iemand van Russian kerk uitnooi om te kom kyk

en vra vir hulp

Dit hoef nie die media te maak nie

Brittanje

@Klipkop (Clip-Cop) - hoekom pool 'n klomp, soos 'n honderd witmense nie al hulle bates nie, koop land in die karoo or negotiate met n boer daar en trek soontoe en skep nuwe towns nie

fokus of defense

en bou boerland uit van binne af

ye Orania is great

nog!

en dit hoef nie so fancy te wees nie

selfs as on mense in die shacks en die kinders begin evacuate na sulke gebiede, as ons sulke gebiede kan begin bou

probleem is mense is so lief vir hulle TVs en lixuries

luxuries

ye dis waar - maar ek dink ons moet dit begin doen

ek sal enige oomblik oppak en dit begin doen

as ek honderd mense kry wat sal help werk om dit te bou

As ons 50 Orananias gehad het kon ons bietjie leverage gehad het

een Orania is useless

en net 'n nota = ek push nie noue actually net ethnostate nie

mense wat nie useless is nie en wat kan bou

makie saak watse kleur

Yeah al wat gaan gebeur 'n klomp boere verloor grond - sonder dat dit die nuus maak, meer witmense verloor als, ons word nog minder etc

Ons praat almal chinese oor 20 jaar, as ons nog hier is

Ek se nogsteed = ons moet klomp Oranias maak 😄

Laat die res van die land aangaan soos hulle wil

lol

C I A

yebbo

ek suig dick

Rendier is n hensopper !

lol weet jy nie?

net 'n grappie ok!

😄

lol

bye hensopper

hehehe

WW3 - the main city is gone!

the capitol is gone!

no not on this computer

Oh man please do it

You guys have work to do

My dad were like 9 brothers and sisters

bye kaiser

yeah I think all the whiteys left should go cluster somewhere

But Arcade too stuck up

;P

Gent can i join your army

yeah you may have a point

I think the "boers" are looking more and more same story as jews lol

becoming diaspora

Gent those guys are bad news

eish lol

hehe dang I hate guns

creeps me out

I'll leave the gun stuff to the men 😉

lol

ok, I'm going now guys, thanks for chat - was entertaining. Laters! lekke slaap

ohoh i just want to hear this answer hehe

byby!

hi Snake - I have no mic

sucks

will hav to make a plan

hihi

my phone way too old lol

hehehe

yar

HAHA omg

we always said they good weapons

😄

it was very good willem

It would be nice if more ppl came here after stream

get good convos going

but anyways congrats willem - it was great

Im off now

bye guys

Good Grief daai "debat" was shocking

@Sheamus ja ek dink ook so

@Daniebees Vertigo Politix het 'n great video oor liberale, dat mens moet aanhoe hul cognitive dissonance trigger en as hulle teendruk = "up the fucking voltage"

Die beste is as jy hul kry om hulself te contradict

die mental gymnastics

dit was uitstekend!

Ja maar daar is wel slimmer swart mense - nie almal is so nie

plus kleurlinge

hoe meer mense mens red uit die kake van komunisme 😄

@SGL @Conscious Caracal hi guys

@Gonzo hi!