nice meme

@Dingo he's probably wondering how to convince you of the opposite

mm not sure Flat Earth belief is grounds for therapy, though it's not ideal

quite

nice meme, again

lol

don't break a vessel

> We were having a discussion not a debate, you are replying with an opposing view that is a debate
That's...not really the definition of discussion vs debate

Opposing views can be discussed outside a debate context just fine

Can't join <#610525291256741914> but I have to say those sound effects are extremely annoying

Seems legit

Saturn worshipers, worshipping Saturn

How could the English language allow that ://

Those are just decorative squiggles, clearly

I thought the globe made up the globe

@ShadoW (D.F.J) so then...they don't have a working model of the sun and moon.

*intelligentsia

I did, but it was a while ago. IP banned currently

I imagine you could look it up online

> The sun is much closer. Therefore its light doesnt travel across the entire flat plane at the same time
But it does travel across the entire flat plane. There's no reason why it would travel a certain distance and stop with no obstacles in its way. Given the sun is a sphere, light would radiate in all directions and touch every part of the flat surface. The first few diagrams you showed are not consistent with the gif of the glass paperweight thing. For one, in the gif you're basically assuming that the sun is outside the dome/firmament, which contradicts your pictures. You also have no observation of the dome or the refractive properties within it. Is it solid glass? Obviously it can't be, so is it a glass shell? How do you know?

> Ever heard of olbers Paradox?
Olber's paradox only refers to the question of why the sky is not bright at night from starlight given a set of assumptions. Many of the explanations say the assumptions are incorrect, unless the cosmos had fractal lighting patterns, which current evidence doesn't support.

Light can dissipate in the atmosphere, but a) that's not what the Olber's paradox relates to and b) you need to show that light dissipates at a rate and distance to match however far away you think the sun is, which doesn't appear to be decided on by Flat Earthers.

I don't see how this is out of line. I'm just responding to what you said, there's no formal debate format.

What kinds of conversation are supposed to go here?

It is half, yes (excluding things like surface variations, waves, etc.). Idk why that's disputed

@Citizen Z the gif is too small for me to view properly and I don't understand how the Alaska video relates at all. Also, the whole optics and angular resolution thing makes no sense. What makes "things disappear bottom up" legit? What's special about the bottom of the ship?

Where does the extra 2% come from?

This is an "informing" channel, is it not?

Oh I'm dumb, I was treating the sun as a point light. Makes a lot of sense actually for it to be slightly over 50%

~~If you're not patient enough to explain your position, I could use some easy diagrams or something about the angle of resolution if you have them on hand~~ found the stuff you posted in optics so I'll be looking at that

@BubbleBurster yeah keep in mind the sun is not a point light, so the coverage would be slightly higher because you're getting light from one side of the sun sphere and also from the other side
Same reasoning as to why you wouldn't need to be infinitely far away from the earth to see 50% of it, because you have two eyes

tbf 52% =/= 100%

I might be slightly wrong again, I think the sun might mathematically need to have a larger radius than the earth to cover more than 50%, not simply that it has size to begin with

^where did this come from?

Is radius a trigger word or something?

Oh I was talking about a globe model, not a flat one, sorry

I don't think that was very fair. What he suggested is what scientists would do- its just basically testing the model they came up with.

Unless that gif posted is not supposed to be an actual model people adhere to and is just a meme or something else.

I agree with Brother Loftus, I understood what he meant by it in terms of being a big fan

Wait until they hear about a country called the USA

@jam jar 123 Australia is in the upper right corner of the gif

It's the Satanic Panic all over again :o

cyoot

9 out of 10 dentists agree

I'm assuming it's a very small number of people here if any, but I wonder if anyone here has looked into the concept of gender abolitionism

Was about to say, sexual dimorphism and gender are separate topics. Have to look more into the dimorphism bit but I can say that much.

Sex isn't binary though, so saying "there are two sexes" is technically incorrect

^yep

Understandable, "two sexes" is the outdated way of looking at it

Time to God: 11 minutes

Idk, people here have a weird way of defining debate

off topic, but sure

my dog can vouch for that view

@SiliconBassist it depends on how gender is defined, in some contexts it could be totally free of any biological characteristics

Have fun playing MH

most balls are egg-shaped, aren't they. So that would be technically correct

It's too bad the FE channels don't have many options to post videos unless they're coming from FEers

Right, I'm asking why the server only supports reading and learning from one side of the issue

I just thought I'd offer a bit of critique. To an outsider's perspective, the structure would seem familiar to what some FEers would criticize public schooling for doing, I imagine (as far as learning about only one viewpoint on the issue)

Just thinking that having both sides equally open for resources would establish more of an impartial nature on the person coming here, which would be beneficial in all aspects.

^That's not an actual argument, is it? (the picture)

don't mind me idk what's happening

Might join vc though

aw, everyone in vc has globe earth roles, that's no fun

I'm assuming a special role is needed to access VC chat

That or you have to be in the call

Still can't talk yet b/c finishing dinner

https://pics.me.me/if-eclipses-are-real-why-do-you-need-special-nasa-52780951.png

We've reached critical mass in VC where the conversation will get out of control

fun times ahead

@Seeker of Truth just my opinion, listing off stuff like that at Ishmael and then refusing to hear his counter points is not the mark of someone open-minded

Did he lie about something? I must have missed it

Again, just voicing my opinion. It's general discussion. May ask well ask while the conversation's out in the open.

> do some research, question everything, stop believing liars
To be fair, this is a very copypasta-esque statement, though that doesn't necessarily mean you copypasta-ed that list. But again, no reason to be sure Ishmael watched you type it all out.

Perhaps that's what you referred to?

I'm not concern trolling anything, just sharing my opinion. Didn't know that was a bannable offense

I was going to ask earlier why just anyone was allowed to post in <#484516084846952451>, considering none of the other threads in fighting the globe had complete access for just anyone

also especially since discussion is discouraged there and redirected to civil debate

@Citizen Z

@Citizen Z I have, and multiple times I've tried to carry discussions which people thought were debates, when they weren't

Mods on this server don't really seem to draw a distinction between the two

Ah well

Guess nobody's got clear terms then.
I mean, either way I guess I don't really care, because there's still a place to discuss it and not just be straight-up fed FE stuff

Sounds like the ice box is the equivalent of cognitive-dissonance on the 24/7 Flat Earth server

It is not exactly an unbiased server, for sure

Got banned there after I didn't let one of the mods evade a point I made

Apparently for some flat earth mods, instances of banning become a lot easier to feel good about if they can convince themselves the other person was simply just a troll, for whatever reason

*argument

It's kind of expected at this point that FE mods will have that type of power imbalance

Hey same here, 3 weeks

shush Yeti

happened to be a goth gf too

casual slooting

My friend lived in his mom's basement for four years past high school; he just got back from his honeymoon

ew tinder

He worked constantly, got his associates, married his HS girlfriend. Did everything an adult would do, except he never moved out of his parents' house. To save money.

Nurse actually

Yeah I think he did, idk with how it specifically worked between community college, on-site training, etc.

He might not be a full nurse yet

18 is way too early to make a judgment call on that in most cases

Oh god no, not Tinder, unless you really know how to work it in your favor