Aircraft are in the air

The sky is a much steeper angle

https://archive.org/details/perceptionofvisu00jame

This is know science

You'll need to elaborate on that answer

Apparently the internet has fucked the link for james gibson

Most the research i do gets erased eventually

But james Gibson 1952

Good source

Used to be free

I'll look into james gibson because that's a new name to me

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1953-04840-001

I will have to find the free study again

I've got plenty of other points I can bring up especially with my naval experience relating to the curvature

Well you are free to believe that

Im not stopping you

I find flat earth to have such little explanatory power. For the vast majority of topics that can be discussed, flat earth has not provided an explanation for. For the explanations flat earth has provided, I find them to be invalid

Hence my position

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> The sun is much closer. Therefore its light doesnt travel across the entire flat plane at the same time
But it does travel across the entire flat plane. There's no reason why it would travel a certain distance and stop with no obstacles in its way. Given the sun is a sphere, light would radiate in all directions and touch every part of the flat surface. The first few diagrams you showed are not consistent with the gif of the glass paperweight thing. For one, in the gif you're basically assuming that the sun is outside the dome/firmament, which contradicts your pictures. You also have no observation of the dome or the refractive properties within it. Is it solid glass? Obviously it can't be, so is it a glass shell? How do you know?

> Ever heard of olbers Paradox?
Olber's paradox only refers to the question of why the sky is not bright at night from starlight given a set of assumptions. Many of the explanations say the assumptions are incorrect, unless the cosmos had fractal lighting patterns, which current evidence doesn't support.

Light can dissipate in the atmosphere, but a) that's not what the Olber's paradox relates to and b) you need to show that light dissipates at a rate and distance to match however far away you think the sun is, which doesn't appear to be decided on by Flat Earthers.

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I don't see how this is out of line. I'm just responding to what you said, there's no formal debate format.

What kinds of conversation are supposed to go here?

Yeah and I still haven't gotten an answer as to why the sun illuminates half the world perfectly
Half the world (roughly) experiences day while the other experiences night- not counting midnight sun (another phenomenon unexplained by FE)

It is half, yes (excluding things like surface variations, waves, etc.). Idk why that's disputed

He insisted it's not half when that is an indisputable fact

Mindboggling

Actually never seen a flat earther claim otherwise before @Citizen Z

@BubbleBurster so its exactly half?

Yeah it is half

"Half the world (roughly)"

Roughly

Yes

Thats what i said

Its more like 52%

So a bit more

@Citizen Z the gif is too small for me to view properly and I don't understand how the Alaska video relates at all. Also, the whole optics and angular resolution thing makes no sense. What makes "things disappear bottom up" legit? What's special about the bottom of the ship?

Angle of light