Throttles

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2019-10-27 07:13:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

And?

2019-10-27 07:14:20 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

So thatโ€™s not your reason for being skeptical of the consensus?

2019-10-27 07:14:34 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

What are your reasons?

2019-10-27 07:16:26 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Ok.

2019-10-27 07:20:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

You do โ€˜โ€™>

2019-10-27 07:21:06 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Remove the apostrophe

2019-10-27 07:23:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

So itโ€™s the people behind the consensus that you disagree with?

2019-10-27 07:25:31 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Alright. So what you disagree with is the people and the methods they use to come to that number, is it the actual climate scientists that took party in the survey or the people who made the survey?

2019-10-27 07:28:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Okay, so they have used circular reasoning to justify the conclusion?

2019-10-27 07:31:49 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Well, we need to take a look at the meta-analysis survey that Cook made. In the third quote, it says:

โ€œa 97% consensus among papers taking a position on the cause of global warming in the peer reviewed literature that humans are responsible.โ€

It is a misconception that humans are responsible: that is what we call enhanced climate change. Climate change is a natural occurring process, the Earth has been through several glacial and interglacial periods.

2019-10-27 07:32:30 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

We have simply added, because of our use of greenhouse gases.

2019-10-27 07:35:17 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

So youโ€™re not really sceptical of climate change, nor enhanced climate change. Instead you are skeptical of humans being solely responsible for climate change?

2019-10-27 07:38:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Okay. So science is an empirical and falsifiable method that gathers data from observation and makes predictions of what could happen in the future. What climate scientists typically do is, gather the data of amount of carbon being pumped into the atmosphere and then settle on a prediction that at the specified rate, this could cause X, which could lead to Y.

2019-10-27 07:39:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

This of courses look at the greenhouse gases from not only human use, but natural use.

2019-10-27 07:41:57 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

So a scientific model is typically made after enormous amounts of data. In this case, it wouldnโ€™t really be a model imo. But I need to brush up on my definition of one. However, climate predictions are more just warnings, saying that if we go at this rate, then this is what will happen.

2019-10-27 07:43:28 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

I donโ€™t know what that is?

2019-10-27 07:46:36 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Can I see the emails?

2019-10-27 07:51:45 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

This is what I could find in regards to the email controversy.

2019-10-27 07:53:39 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

The article says updated 2011

2019-10-27 08:01:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #climate-debate]  

Also, Legates the person who you quoted to have pointed out the misinterpretation in Cook was also caught in controversy.


https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/26/uds-david-legates-caught-climate-change-controversy/24090273/

There was also this explaining Legateโ€™s view of Cookโ€™s paper

https://blog.hotwhopper.com/2016/04/the-illogic-of-deniers-david-legates-on.html

What is this degeneracy.

Gaddafi was good.

Based.

Everyone knows this.

His philosophy is very weak.

His fans commit confirmation bias

What can you do lol

@Auspexel Like sh0t said before, ignore his commentary on philosophy and focus on his psychology. That's his expertise since he studies the field of course, I suggest picking up maps of meaning, that book is decent.

Me and Peterson differ greatly, I'm a collectivist whilst he is an individualist, so there isn't anything that I particularly like about him. His understanding of postmodern philosophy and marxism is very bad, as was shown in his debate with Zizek and highlighted in the reddit thread as well.

He definitely is one. He critiques a lot of collectivism on the left. You can also infer it from him being a classical liberal.

Yeah they did.

Why does Israel exist

Can we demolish Israel

Brb gonna go destroy some israelis and refute them with facts and logic

>liking Israel unironically

Smh boomers

:nigel:

No they're not

They're mutts.

Hes right though.

Hitler thought slavs were natural slaves.

And he didn't grant any sort of Aryan rank to the Slavic countries.

Ikr lmao

Indo-Aryans are just Iranians

2019-10-29 14:48:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

A deductive argument can have false premises but a true conclusion

2019-10-29 14:50:29 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why don't you guys do this in vc.

2019-10-29 14:51:04 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

It's 10x easier in vc.

2019-10-29 14:51:37 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You economists defend empiricism right this second.

2019-10-29 14:52:22 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I'll go in vc.

2019-10-29 14:53:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Get in vc right now you cowards

2019-10-29 14:54:12 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Tf. If you're gonna debate like this do it in vc

2019-10-29 14:54:44 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Why would I subscribe to an ideology that puts down my own race.

2019-10-29 14:54:55 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You still don't understand Gentile's fascism.

2019-10-29 14:56:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Sh0t join vc pls

2019-10-29 14:57:47 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

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2019-10-29 15:00:13 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

@Jefferson Davis Fuck off. This isn't a shitpost channel

2019-10-29 15:00:41 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Go into his dms

1. There exist entities that: (i) are members of a causal series; and (ii) begin to exist.
2. Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
3. If there is an entity that: (i) is a member of a causal series; and (ii) begins to exist, then there is an uncaused entity X.

This here is for the atheists.

Refute it.

2019-10-29 15:05:19 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You guys wasted 2-3 hours in text when this could've been finished 30 mins in vc

2019-10-29 15:06:01 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

1) Throttles is a Nazi
2) ?????
3) Therefore Throttles is a Nazi

Nice non-sequitor.

2019-10-29 15:06:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

How does that at all entail fascism.

2019-10-29 15:06:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Tell me how fascism entails nazism.

2019-10-29 15:07:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Ba'athists aren't nazis either.

2019-10-29 15:08:02 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Fallacy of false equivalence.

2019-10-29 15:09:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Sophie, I told you that fascism is the political application of Gentile's actual idealism. Not if you want to go by the canonical definition of the actual philosopher of fascism, is up to you.

2019-10-29 15:11:53 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Nazi Germany was statist because the state upheld the importance of race (the German people being aryans and such). The state acted as an authority figure for Nazi ideology. Tell me how this relates to Mussolini.

2019-10-29 15:14:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

What makes someone a nazi?

2019-10-29 15:15:23 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Would it be believing in Hitler's fairytale of Germans being aryans?

2019-10-29 15:15:50 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

The SS doesn't exist anymore.

2019-10-29 15:16:08 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

So what makes someone a nazi now?

2019-10-29 15:16:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Hating the Jews?

There are islamic extremists who hate the Jews.

2019-10-29 15:16:51 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Gentile was in the Nazi party but he himself wasn't a nazi. He didn't think ill of the Jews.

2019-10-29 15:17:18 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

He left the party because of Mussolini.

2019-10-29 15:18:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Conservatism has nothing to do with fascism.

2019-10-29 15:19:00 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Bruh you know what

Let Fascism be X and let Nazism be Y

1) If X then Y
2) Not Y
3) Therefore, not X (from 2, Modus Tollens)

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2019-10-29 15:20:10 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

>just chill
>fuck off nazi

2019-10-29 15:21:01 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I neither like or admire Hitler.

2019-10-29 15:21:08 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Nor do I subscribe to Nazism.

2019-10-29 15:21:35 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

If you think every school of fascism is nazi, then that's because you're ignorant.

2019-10-29 15:21:38 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Okay lol.

2019-10-29 15:21:42 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

I don't really care.

2019-10-29 15:21:52 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You should've said fascist then.

2019-10-29 15:21:56 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Instead of nazi.

2019-10-29 15:22:48 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

@Sh0t Lol what.

2019-10-29 15:22:54 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Islamo fascism isn't even a thing

2019-10-29 15:22:59 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

A western concept.

2019-10-29 15:23:15 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

You might be referencing Salafis.

2019-10-29 15:23:27 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Oh.

2019-10-29 15:23:32 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

The tool to gain power?

2019-10-29 15:24:07 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

It's not the definition of Gentile but I don't have a problem with that imi

2019-10-29 15:24:09 UTC [NEWS and POLITICS #economic-issues]  

Imo*

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