Message from @Throttles
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And you’re claiming that his personal beliefs somehow discount the actions of the party
I think to be a 'fascist' you have to have the cynacism too, or you are just a sucker
Nazi Germany was statist because the state upheld the importance of race (the German people being aryans and such). The state acted as an authority figure for Nazi ideology. Tell me how this relates to Mussolini.
no the actions of the party were reprehensible, it doesnt mean they were genuine nazis
I don’t care if Hitler loves shrimp, loving shrimp is not core to the Nazi ideology
And I don’t care if he personally hated geometric shapes on flags, that doesn’t make the flag not a swastika
if you put a gun to my head and say "if you dont kill a jew, i will kill you"
am i a nazi for killing the jew?
If you’re the head of a nation? Yes.
thats a fallacy ladies and gentlemen
How is that fallacious?
because i dont believe that jews are scum, im only killing the jew because i have to for my own survival
jews are normal people
just like me
but ill kill the jew for my own survival
You can say the same thing about an SS officer
Well, how about the other question, what concept did they SHARE and how many are necessary to be fascist?
He’s still a Nazi
not necessarily
Both had 'living space' like ideologies
Well we’re talking about the difference between fascist and Nazi
which one way or another will have a racial implication
its about concept and ideology, not actions
I don’t think anyone’s questioning whether they were fascist
Nazi is a brand name, a certain version of 'fascism'
youre making a ridiculous conflation
Between what and what
we use nazi like we use 'coke' to refer to any cola sometimes, but not quite the same thing
between an action and an ideology
Would it be believing in Hitler's fairytale of Germans being aryans?
Italian fascism and German fascism?
killing a jew doesnt make me a nazi
Being in the SS does
You don't have to believe in the fairy tale to be a nazi. SPREADING the fairytale makes you a nazi
depends why theyre in the SS
The SS doesn't exist anymore.
Would you agree with that?
trying to get others to believe in it makes you a nazi
No, it doesn’t
So what makes someone a nazi now?
Fascism is a tool to get power, not really a philosophy on its own