Message from @Throttles
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New Jason Stanley book does a good job 'defining' fascism imo
nazism is a FORM of fascism, but fascism isnt necessarily nazism
Mussolini and Franco were the Nazi equivalent in their nations
no
YesZ
nazism includes eugenic ideology
They were closely allied, had meetings together
fascism isnt necessarily eugenic
Fallacy of false equivalence.
GG @Throttles, you just advanced to level 6!
this is just pure dishonesty
Fascism is necessarily ethnostatic
and that doesnt mean eugenics
or jew hating
Eugenics is just an extension of that
or hating disabled people
yes its an EXTENSION
its not INHERENT
Certainly all three you mentioned were antisemitic
mussolini turned against jews because hitler wanted him to
Sophie, I told you that fascism is the political application of Gentile's actual idealism. Not if you want to go by the canonical definition of the actual philosopher of fascism, is up to you.
not because mussolini wanted to
Is that an important distinction?
yes
mussolini wasnt anti semitic
It is not. He had political pressure to do so, so he did
it was an opportunistic policy
Yes, he was.
its not a belief in jews being legit bad
Yes, because he was a Nazi
but he wasnt
lmao
That is not an important political distinction
this is literally peak dishonesty
to be fair, most nazis werent racists either, they just wanted to get paid
hitler was an 'idealist' but not all of them were
no but the nazist ideology was racist
many under him were just pure cynics
if you believed the ideology you were racist
We’re talking about the actions of a party
like you could be in the nazi party without believing in nazism