its about concept and ideology, not actions

I don’t think anyone’s questioning whether they were fascist

Nazi is a brand name, a certain version of 'fascism'

youre making a ridiculous conflation

Between what and what

we use nazi like we use 'coke' to refer to any cola sometimes, but not quite the same thing

between an action and an ideology

Would it be believing in Hitler's fairytale of Germans being aryans?

Italian fascism and German fascism?

killing a jew doesnt make me a nazi

Being in the SS does

You don't have to believe in the fairy tale to be a nazi. SPREADING the fairytale makes you a nazi

depends why theyre in the SS

The SS doesn't exist anymore.

Would you agree with that?

trying to get others to believe in it makes you a nazi

No, it doesn’t

So what makes someone a nazi now?

Fascism is a tool to get power, not really a philosophy on its own

What if you are in the NAZI party, but just doing it for your safety and career

Hating the Jews?

There are islamic extremists who hate the Jews.

Does that make you a Nazi?

for sure, that's the real nazi

if im in the SS by pure accident, and i literally do not believe in nazism, but its in my interest to keep my job, then continuing to serve in the SS does not make me a nazi, it makes me an egoist

the cynics are the REAL nazis

@Sh0t lol

Gentile was in the Nazi party but he himself wasn't a nazi. He didn't think ill of the Jews.

He was still a Nazi

i think that's the key difference between fascism and other political ideologies

He left the party because of Mussolini.

I think it's the other way around @Green Syndicalism

@Sh0t I disagree- mainly because I think that the growth of fascism from conservatism is a hallmark of the ideology

I g2g- but this really should be moved to a diff channel

Conservatism has nothing to do with fascism.

"being a nazi" to me means "believing in the ideology of nazism"

if i dont believe in it

im not a nazi

Those who believe in it are the suckers

i might be part of a nazist organisation, but its not because im a nazi

almost unqualified to be real nazis lol

Being a member of the Nazi party makes you a Nazi