Messages from @Hand Banana (Discord ID: 151529484854624261)
You could also merge the two sponsor channels
I was one of the guys who stopped to help you with your fake car problems
Do you not remember the fucking passenger van of nazis who stopped to help you with your fake car problems
Because nothing was wrong with your car
The guy named Koba - PA isnt Koba, @JohnStrasser is Koba
I was very excited to get to fight koba
Walking a mile in small groups is literally an invitation to be fucked up
Should really take the idea of a shuttle seriously
Its a flag that one of the TRS guys designed
I actually want to have a serious discussion on the difference between Right Wing and Left Wing organizational strategies and how we can leverage some of their behavior to assist us
Left-wingers have a combination of centralized and decentralized infrastructure, because they have different kinds of groups. Some groups use centralized organization: they’ll go out tabling, recruit people, trying to grow big. Other groups, particularly anarchists, favor a decentralized approach, where actions are performed by the collaborative actions of multiple small cells called affinity groups.
The affinity group structure began in Spain: anarchists there organized themselves into small groups of very close friends who knew each other very well, because such small groups were difficult to infiltrate. Even if they were infiltrated, exposing one group wouldn’t blow the whole organization.
The American Left picked up on affinity groups in the late 1960s. They started as a means for organizing protests and turned into a means of organizing movements. To coordinate, they send members back and forth to spokescouncils. The idea is to create a very collaborative discussion. This is partly due to the influence on the modern hard Left by Quaker organizers — if you remember those lengthy Occupy meetings that just went on and on and on, it’s because that’s how decision-making is done in Quaker meetings, and Quaker organizers taught the technique to Lefties in the ’70s anti-nuclear movement. And it spread, because lefties in different movements talk to each other and work together all the time.
Its in line with something I've been saying for a while now.
@PrimitveXaocWhat are your credentials for planning ingress/egress?l
We should designate someone to plan logistics in this regard. Parking, movement to and from the ao
Something many of you are unfamiliar with
We rent a passenger van from Detroit and back. Its very cost efficient
Look for somewhere 10 minutes outside of town that people could park cars at
Downtown parking should be for all the vans we can muster primarily, secondarily for POVs
@Erika last time was a flash mob style event with almost no leftist presence
This will be more similar to Berkeley in size"scope
Since its summer all the shit heel leftists possible will be bussing in
Someone who is local could look for bus rentals, maybe the company that does the schoolbusses
We will have at least one guy with a CDL in attendance @Heinz - MI
We could discuss this there but the channel appears to have been shoahed
Can we please keep the discussion on here serious
@Tyrone Dude, any money that people would be willing to donate for that should go towards the event or getting people to it
We can't see the roles, @Erika . You can right click a user and see what roles they have
Please stop trolling this channel and use the shitposting channel
Light it up is probably an internal phrase
@пидорновичок He's one of the hosts of the TRS Podcast the Paranormies
The biggest difference between the right and left right now is that the Right refuses to work with "idealogically impure" groups while the left adopts a big tent strategy much to their advantage
Arguments in bad faith and using strawmen just make you look like an asshole
If you're unwilling to work with people who aren't 100% in step with us you're more picky than the literal NSDAP
Literally them willing to come to one of our events and stand with us is meeting us halfway
Last year you wouldnt have an event with Enoch and Spencer and Heimbach at the same place
We put our own house (mostly) in order, and the fact that you have these other groups coming to stand with us speaks volumes about their tacit willingness to endorse WN without saying it directly
tl;dr quit being a sperg and accept the need for cross-group solidarity
I wasnt redpilled by some guy demanding that I be a white nationalist if I wanted to hang out with him
It was through a friend showing me the anti-whtie bias of the left and explaining how it was created etc.
It's better to build actual friendships within the alt-lite and use those to help enlighten them, who in turn will do it to their friends, etc.
There's a term for it that the left uses, affinity groups
They spread idealogies through groups of likeminded friends, who spread it further
Not if they're following the lead of White Nationalists
Which they de facto will be as long as we stop shitting on them and instead offer strong leadership
Look at how the NSDAP dealt with the Freikorps
They provided the most clear option of strong leadership and pushback against the left. The Freikorps all eventually joined the NSDAP and merged with the SA
That wasn't achieved by the SA attacking them in press and in the streets
But by offering a hand up to those who didn't realize there was something better
Rockwell is one of my idols, and I follow many of his teachings. However, his approach to National Socialism in America was a failure.
@MatthewHeimbach this is Paul, you guys finally convinced me that I should join TWP
It wasn't entirely his fault, or even mostly
We actualyl share a huge hurdle that he had
The unwilligness of wealthy people who share our views to donate money. We have multiple millionaires in this movement, we shouldn't be crowdfunding donations for rental vans and plane tickets.
However there are people who espouse our views, travel and socialize in our circles, and keep their purse strings taught.
I'm trying to get these organizers (loose term) to get some kind of shuttle set up
Worst case is the Detroit Reich Wings figure it out and implement it ourselves
You know I think in know his cousin or brother
Anyway we're building a cross group street action group here in Michigan, thats the DRW
We had the biggest contingent from any state at Cville 1
I didn't realize you were from MI or I would've made it a point to network at Pikeville
Yeah, we'll have to get you guys out to the next state meet up and get you guys indocced
If its at the point where we need riot armor
It will already be a shooting war
And you'll want a carrier and a Kevlar instead of padding
Watch videos of Maidan chronologically to see how the state may respond
As Ukraine responded in a pretty standard anti terror anti riot way
The only major difference would be that we would also be fighting other people on the street
Our main goal in Michigan is to transcend the intra group boundaries for true cross group solidarity and organization for white interests in the state
We're planning an even bigger one in Michigan, for September
Sounds like a good idea for when we buy a bus
In the Detroit Reich Wings we have monthly fellowship events where we practice drill and ceremony (marching/formations) among other things including physical fitness and self-defense
We're also going to take some video of us practicing shield techniques that we will overlay with voice explaining some basics of large scale confrontations and how to use shields the most effectively and distribute it
I can talk to Heimbach if theres some kind of issue, what link is it?
He just said he doesnt view them as his allies
It bears repeating: The police (The Establishment) are not your friends
They are controlled, if not staffed by, interests hostile to us
Do not break the law and comply with all instructions :^)
Two months man, and we'll show them solidarity
Mike hates faggots and they dont tolerate them
Ghoul is getting married this year, so I kind of doubt he's a kid fucking faggot
Three of TRS' podcasts have had virulently anti gay episodes in the last two weeks
This is an argument I'll be happy to have later tonight, I'm celebrating fathers day right now.
Remember, men act while women chatter. Idle talk will lead you to the grave.
Its chatter to speculate about baseless claims that a man getting married is a secret kid fucker.
This comes from someone that really doesn't like Ghoul
I dont know anyone that likes bathhouse greg
I think he was on an episode a year or two ago
The tone of TRS has shifted greatly within the last year
A majority of the listeners and hosts are NatSoc now, and they've had three different shows come out with anti fag episodes in the last week
Mike is one of the harsher anti gay AMD anti Jew people I've spoken with
I dont know anyone in the TRS community that likes Milo
If you aren't interested in arguing in good faith we don't have to do this
Thats an article about using the Orlando shooting to wedge two groups on the left
My phone autocorrected Nol to Lol
If you're white and dont look homeless
I am of the opinion that by physically dominating public space we do more than by cucking and just not showing up
I, and I hope the rest of the <@&324666407872757760> , am going to make an effort to visit every bar in Charlottesville
Theres a discussion i want to have in persom
Sue him and milk him for every cent you can, put it into alt-right activism and a legal fund for yourself lol
@Max Macro I got the details for that event first weekend of July, I'll PM you
@MatthewHeimbach met with another local group of WNs that recently formed nearby. They all want to join the TWP
@Max Macro <@276150806842048512> <@301463187298058251>
I dont know which of these you're using. July social meetup is north of Lansing on Saturday, July 1st. PM me for specifics, all of the TWP guys are invited.
@StrawberryArmada Myself and my roommate could use some financial assistance to make it down there
<@&274905555318079488> how do I get vetted?
For those who haven't heard Byron de la Vandals song.
Do you mean like MI or OH? @Skull
You need to read his autobiography "This Time the World" literal a paradigm shift for me
I joined the //tradpol// group on Facebook. I had to name the five Bishoprics of the Pentarchy, state what I eat for Lent, and something else.
This is the pinned post.
I have ten guys who want to join TWP here in Michigan
I'd say it'd be in our interest to point out the distinction is no longer between the alt lite and alt right. It's between the brand names and the united new right.
@Skull dude you wont find a ride by saying "The western half of the Midwest"
WE'RE BREAKING THE CONDITIONING
1920s Germany had an oathkeeper analogue
@Wall Buildionaire How did you find this server?
@TheStriker94 I was in the AntiCom discord for a while. It was so disorganized I couldn't get vetted after actively trying to get an interview for a month. Is it any better?
I ask because I want to get in touch with AntiComs in Michigan and do some cross group stuff
The Detroit Right Wings
A statewide pan-nationalist group
Every great and successful movement of our type has had the same view on "optics". Present an honest and true message, openly name your enemies, and you will recruit the people who believe in your message and will fight for it. If you try and trick people into supporting you you show you are weak and a liar, and when they find out they will recoil from you, and rightfully so.
Why try to appeal to and recruit people who want nothing to do with you? The NSDAP started with 20 maligned extremists in a bar in Munich. By being open and honest and speaking truth to power you will recruit earnest and honest men who will fight and die for you.
Joe Normie isn't going to strap on boots and fight communists with you no matter how much you lie about being a White Nationalist and Anti-Semite.
What this illustrates, to me, is the prioritization of social capital and outward appearance over true self presentation of ideas and goals. This is a very feminine behavior.
@пидорновичок I'm eating 37 raw eggs a day
No exercise at all, trying to retain mass
You should probably designate a PSO more than a month out
Niggas whomst dont have skin cancer aren't even white
How many organizations does someone need to start infighting with before something is done?
Could you take Alex Jones to the Alex Jones channel pls
I want to have a discussion about the single person in this discord who is patently unable to put aside their ego and self importance in any way to entertain things she may not agree with.
Furthermore, for someone who cries so hard about optics you think shed have the self awareness to realize that a single middle aged childless woman isn't very good optics for an ostensibly traditionalist organization.
Especially as an event coordinator and regional coordinator.
This is the second or third time that this person has caused massive amounts of infighting. What value does she bring that couldn't be generated without literally anyone else filling her position?
I want to know what contributions she honestly makes. To many of us it appears the only reason she has her position is riding on the coattails of others. She constantly lords her "authority" over others and denigrates other groups and individuals on a daily basis