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Did they ever state the date the show is set in? Because a lot of the technologies seem a bit later than that
Like, i would estimate late 14th/early 15th century from havibg watched it
I never played the games, though
Also, this was _long_ before the church had any of the reformations that has calmed it down today. This was presumably before the Protestant-Catholic wars, in a territory right on the edge of Islamic invasion, in the grip of several competing monotheistic religions (Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, whatever remnants of paganism remained)
Yeah, this was right on the cusp of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire and Islamic threat, then
Religious zealotry against due to hostile foreignersbwould have made religious tensions very high
And the Catholic Church was certainly corrupt
While the scale might be overblown
I personally chalked that partly up to an insane rogue element of tbe church rather than the _entirety_ of Catholic clergy being that degree
Manga of Attack is better
And you mean parasyte: the maxim?
Yeah, it certainly would
Plus 1476 is like
What
20, 30 years after the collapse of the Byzantines?
Berserk
_**Go read Berserk**_
Was it? I do not know all that much about Vlad
20, 30 years after the collapse of the Byzantines?
That is a cool detail
I know that much
King of Wallachia, impaled people on spikes, had beef with the Ottoman Turks
What
Blood wine
I mean
Again
I personally considered it to be partly the result of a particularly bad regional church, rather than necessarily the entirety of Catholicism being that bad
Anyone here familiar with Shoukoku no Altair
I wonder if Ubel Blatt finished, I have not checked up on it in months
Megumin, 15?
_Lies_
We have really only seen the local church
So I am withholding judgment on the rest of it
Until such time as we see more
Oh
Yeah
I did a cursory read over Vlad a while ago
Holy shit, Wallachia was brutal
Was _not_ just Vlad
So
Eh, I can see it going too far with it later on
Again, I am withholding further judgment for time being, considering that we have seen only a small portion of it
The heck
Wallachia was literally the frontline against Turkish invasion at that point in time
By contrast, elsewhere, Europe was actually opening up more to alternative ideas, science and the like at the time
Yeah, and the late 15th century and early 16th is when the Italian Renaissance got into swing
Ideas began taking route
I mean
The Catholics burnt _people_ for such during the Catholic-Protestant wars
Kinda
Discussing the context surrounding it and possibly explaining some of its questionable elements
Well
_Especially_ considering that demon's speech to the bishop
I cam imagine the Devil playing some part in having distantly affected the church in killing her
The point is questioning whether that is actually a problem with some roots in anti-Catholicism/Progressivism
Personally, I find it within my willing suspension of disbelief, given the time and place
They were _looking_ to murder her
Witchcraft was a pretext
Again, the time and place was full of corruption
Having glanced over just rhe _wikipedia_ page on Vlad the Impaler
It does not seem too far-fetched for the context
And
I got the impression that Vlad had had a habit of murdering and eatinf people as a vampire before he retired and his wife knocked on his door
Uh
Eeeeh
Nah, leaning on people to confess and submit was definitely practice there
Also
They _clearly_ believed that God was actually on their side against the devil, that the devil was a weak bluffer and that their holy ground wiuld protect them
It makes sense given the time and place
It is accurate to the source material
We have seen only one fanatical local rogue faction of the church
It was at a time when religious tensions were extremely high in a brutal and murderous country
Anyways
Done arguing this point
Anyone here ever watch Mariah the Virgin Witch
Anyone
The degree of accuracy in that show is insane
Rip
Eh
I do not think of it as bad
It was literally to establish the themes of a flawed, sometimes stupid, yet ultimately redeemable humanity
Can we save the insulting energy for the commies
Also, I have seen a few quotes from "anarcho-capitalists: here over the last week
Holy shit, as an ancap, a lot of ancaps are insane larpers
I thought the whole meme about ancaps being okay with slavery was a strawman
But holy shit, some people who claim to be ancaps actually believe that shit
I never said anything about robots
I would have to dig-oh
"Ancap"
I use the quotations for a reason
I saw a few literal screenshots of shit like that in this chat a few days ago
Would have to dig to find it
Yeah
Even though
Like
Inherent self-ownership is a fundamental concept in ancap theory that I know of
<Voluntary
<Slavery
Pick one
This is trade, not slavery
Perhaps define servitude as you mean it here
To be certain we are referring to the same exact thing
Yeah, I am certain there is a point of promised service where it crosses the line of trade to what amounts to slavery
Way too tired to really consider the nuance of where that is right now, though
I was mostly remarking upon that the accusation that the libertarian-right is okay with slavery or some shit is apparently not such a baseless accusation as I thought
Even if inaccurate, there is reasonable basis to think that if those are the ones that they have seen
Granted, I consider myself neutral/indifferent to the liberal/conservative axis
Human beangs
Mayas, Incans, Aztecs
Idk which one
Probably what he said
The _winning_ ones were the sacrifices?
I think a better analogy is drawing the short straw than winning the lottery
And theoretically help stave off the apocalypse by thirsty sun god, yes
Even so
Drawback: ded
Pretty big drawback
Killed who
Hah
I think they are spilling plenty of blood for the sun god in the Middle East
Maybe not _deliberately_
On behalf of the orchestrating-what
How many volcanoes are there even over there
I omly know of like
What, two?
Apparently
Volcano
What
No, they worship Saturn
I can ramble on about the Saturn one
Shit is _insane_
I have not studied it to confirm it yet, though I have heard that Islam is actually a Lunar cult
Would make sense
A _lot_ of religions to make their ascendent divine power one of the seven heavenly bodies and those who share the same one tend to have significant values overlap
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