Message from @Nevis

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2019-08-23 01:57:20 UTC  

I mean
The Catholics burnt _people_ for such during the Catholic-Protestant wars

2019-08-23 01:57:37 UTC  

are we still discussing Castlevania?

2019-08-23 01:57:42 UTC  

Kinda

2019-08-23 01:57:54 UTC  

They locked people up for suggesting the universe was infinite and didn't revolve around the earth

2019-08-23 01:58:05 UTC  

Discussing the context surrounding it and possibly explaining some of its questionable elements

2019-08-23 01:58:10 UTC  

Which specific examples are you using?

2019-08-23 01:58:21 UTC  

Some fag named Bruno

2019-08-23 01:58:43 UTC  

Because some are often misinformed. There's generally a lot of nuance involved. Lot of political stuff going on, power struggles.

2019-08-23 01:59:14 UTC  

And as I said, there are many heretical works which they nevertheless preserved in the Vatican archives.

2019-08-23 01:59:18 UTC  

>The universe is infinite
>Challenges political power
What

2019-08-23 01:59:29 UTC  

No, there's other shit these people often did.

2019-08-23 01:59:42 UTC  

In Castlevania it's summarized simply as, in that iteration of the story, that yes the Catholic church in all of them is indeed the "badguy" who typically starts shit with dracula. The Generic basics though is that the Monster hunting order was literally wiped out by dracula. The Belmonts, on the other hand, were family friends of dracula before he became dracula in the original and only killed dracula for killing belmont's bride to be.

In the reboots, dracula was a belmont who became a vampire after killing the lords of darkness and the family kept it a secret and kills vampires and monsters in a fictional world where they're labeled as heretics for acknowledging their existence.

2019-08-23 01:59:56 UTC  

Tl:dr - in all castlevania's the catholic church are backstabbing pricks

2019-08-23 02:00:21 UTC  

Like instances of them being a total sperg, and insulting the church directly when cautioned not assert their models as proven truth.

2019-08-23 02:00:26 UTC  

and the setting is "Advanced" medieval europe due to the scavenging and use of Dracula's advanced technology he gained through a mix of Occultism and advanced mathematics

2019-08-23 02:00:45 UTC  

only in the sense of Dracula's shit though

2019-08-23 02:00:57 UTC  

@KaiserDoom we're talking the netflix show

2019-08-23 02:01:06 UTC  

You could get away with quite a lot, as long as you didn't frame your theories as "this is how things are" and instead as "hey, here's an interesting idea, and I think it's consistent with observations"

2019-08-23 02:01:19 UTC  

Netflix show wise, its a blend of the original story and the reboots lore wise

2019-08-23 02:01:39 UTC  

except in this case, dracula goes on a rampage for his wife being directly killed by the church rather than satan.

2019-08-23 02:01:54 UTC  

Well

2019-08-23 02:02:02 UTC  

Almost same premise for the 2nd castlevania reboot

2019-08-23 02:02:06 UTC  

In the Netflix one he was never a friend nor a belmontand the church drove the belmonts out

2019-08-23 02:02:14 UTC  

_Especially_ considering that demon's speech to the bishop

2019-08-23 02:02:17 UTC  

That's old canon

2019-08-23 02:02:28 UTC  

Ik, I am saying they used a blend of the old and new canon for the netflix one

2019-08-23 02:02:38 UTC  

No they didnt lel

2019-08-23 02:02:43 UTC  

I cam imagine the Devil playing some part in having distantly affected the church in killing her

2019-08-23 02:02:52 UTC  

hell, some of the biggest criticisms of heliocentrism were actually valid mathematically. And it took later skeptics to finally gather the data and create the math necessary to explain the discrepancies.

2019-08-23 02:02:53 UTC  

They tossed that shit out

2019-08-23 02:02:53 UTC  

Kaiser what I just said wasn't in either canon

2019-08-23 02:03:23 UTC  

How long has this dumb server sat on nine of ten for the next boost

2019-08-23 02:03:26 UTC  

one sec

2019-08-23 02:03:30 UTC  

I love how miniature is just talking to no one

2019-08-23 02:03:32 UTC  

Critics weren't all just a bunch of dum dums, sometimes the ultimately correct revolutionary theories were just a little half baked.

2019-08-23 02:03:44 UTC  

Miniature is just being a tard

2019-08-23 02:03:46 UTC  

The point is though, is that in all the Castlevania's that have featured the church, the church has always been a dick to both dracula and the belmonts. Its not even for criticism of the church or anything. its just for pushing the story

2019-08-23 02:03:59 UTC  

where did all the other channels go?

2019-08-23 02:04:16 UTC  

Nowhere, you are just being a nig

2019-08-23 02:04:26 UTC  

I still see em