Message from @Nevis

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2019-08-23 01:30:28 UTC  

I doubt the average person (in any time period) would go "hey, there's a place with dog-headed people"

2019-08-23 01:30:37 UTC  

Medeival folk weren't like, some kind of tards. They were superstitious, sure, but it often took a lot of circumstantial evidence to really get them worked up enough to use it as a justification to kill people.

2019-08-23 01:30:53 UTC  

you say that

2019-08-23 01:30:54 UTC  

Wallachia is 13th century Theocratic Romania

2019-08-23 01:31:02 UTC  

And even then, these periods where that happened were usually the exception, rather than the rule.

2019-08-23 01:31:58 UTC  

@Miniature Menace medieval peasants had no education aside from the church, they worked to live and not dying was a bonus, they had no need to be rational

2019-08-23 01:32:14 UTC  

Everyone needs to be rational to a point.

2019-08-23 01:32:25 UTC  

not really

2019-08-23 01:32:31 UTC  

look at leftists

2019-08-23 01:32:33 UTC  

Your modern views don't negate human nature

2019-08-23 01:32:34 UTC  

Even the choice to obey the church so you don't get labelled a heretic and excommunicated is an act of reason

2019-08-23 01:33:03 UTC  

No, that's an act of survival

2019-08-23 01:33:14 UTC  

Even leftists behave rationally based on their perception of reality, and their priorities.

2019-08-23 01:33:16 UTC  

People do irrational things to survive

2019-08-23 01:33:33 UTC  

@Miniature Menace

Some of the disparity is from people who get Pits because they want a tough strong dog. This shows up in the meme of the 100 lb Pittbull (breed standard is a maximum weight of 80 for males and 60 for females. No 100 lb dog is a Pitt by definition). This is further exacerbated by the lugenpress who know 'Pit Bull" sells more ad space so virtually any bull or terrier breed involved in an incident gets reported as a "Pit Bull Attack!"

2019-08-23 01:34:10 UTC  

Irrationality is doing something deliberately under the assumption that it will take you *further* from your chief desirable outcomes.

2019-08-23 01:34:19 UTC  

Did they ever state the date the show is set in? Because a lot of the technologies seem a bit later than that

2019-08-23 01:34:47 UTC  

Like, i would estimate late 14th/early 15th century from havibg watched it

2019-08-23 01:34:47 UTC  

But sure people who buy Pitts but do not bother to learn how to raise one properly are a large part of the problem.

2019-08-23 01:34:49 UTC  

@Miniature Menace that isn't the definition of irrational

2019-08-23 01:34:53 UTC  

I never played the games, though

2019-08-23 01:35:27 UTC  

I'm operating on the assumption that the Castlevania series occurs in an alternate history where the church actually behaves in a stupid evil fashion. And that's how I've basically compartmentalized it.

2019-08-23 01:36:10 UTC  

One of the dumbest yet most entertaining anime’s ive ever seen was the GATE anime.

2019-08-23 01:36:23 UTC  

GATE was pretty good.

2019-08-23 01:36:38 UTC  

I just loved it for the dumb action

2019-08-23 01:36:45 UTC  
2019-08-23 01:37:08 UTC  

@Gservator Then it's not *your* definition of irrational. And that's fine. Are you going to argue that people generally make conscious and deliberate choices to take them further from their chief objectives?

2019-08-23 01:37:09 UTC  

Also not actually that dumb. Did a good job of avoiding being contrived.

2019-08-23 01:37:10 UTC  

@Nevis it's set in Wallachia, the year is 1476

2019-08-23 01:37:22 UTC  

I liked that blood bath.

2019-08-23 01:37:24 UTC  

@Miniature Menace no, it's not THE definition

2019-08-23 01:38:00 UTC  

>For Whom The Bell Tolls, instead of the in-show meme of Ride of the Valkyries
Not sure how I feel about this.

2019-08-23 01:38:01 UTC  

Also, this was _long_ before the church had any of the reformations that has calmed it down today. This was presumably before the Protestant-Catholic wars, in a territory right on the edge of Islamic invasion, in the grip of several competing monotheistic religions (Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, Islam, whatever remnants of paganism remained)

2019-08-23 01:38:17 UTC  

I just grabbed the top search result.

2019-08-23 01:38:25 UTC  

It’s been a couple years since I watched it

2019-08-23 01:38:37 UTC  

@Gservator I literally don't care. Because that's not really what I'm arguing about. My criticism is related to *my* definition. Address how my argument is actually invalid using the way I have described my criticism.

2019-08-23 01:38:41 UTC  

Yeah, this was right on the cusp of the collapse of the Byzantine Empire and Islamic threat, then

2019-08-23 01:38:42 UTC  

@Nevis so for a modern view it's post crusade era Romania

2019-08-23 01:38:59 UTC  

Regardless, really sad that Bookwalker doesn't have it

2019-08-23 01:39:11 UTC  

@Miniature Menace you don't understand english if you think you can have your own definitions