hello

Hi Red Power

Hi Banana

@FELT yes

Why do you ask @FELT

Ah okay @FELT

I like your avatar as well. I like the BUF

feelsbadman

That's retarded that they ban that flag

Who here has accepted the immortal and divine science of national bolshevism?

The best kind of bol

No

hmm

Yeah but it's still internationalist.

I have no issue with that

Originally theorized by Ernst Niekisch, He saw the class struggle and national struggle as being one in the same

He was the forefather to many national liberation movements ideologically

@Firefly#9983 Read the Niekisch translation project

He spent time in prison under the Nazis until freed by the soviets and helped lay the ground work for a lot of the DDR

He was opposed to the fact that the Nazis were emulating the Italians instead of embracing their own Prussian spirit

He saw a lot of militarism in the USSR that he thought was very compatible with Prussian militarism

@Deleted User Except I'm literally explaining some of the theory to you

I was a Strasserite before, I had read Germany tomorrow but after I've started discovering Niekisch I feel the economics line up more with mine @Firefly

Culturally bourgeois

Also the DPRK has done nothing wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCrVEoT3yUE&index=4&list=RDc7KNEdc52V0

@Firefly I went from libertarianism to Marx, to Tito, to Strasserism, to National Bolshevism. I was a Strasserist for like a year and a half before recently converting after talking to a friend of mine who convinced me to read Niekisch

@Deleted User Sympathizer for sure, I'd have to read more on the ideology of Juche to really call myself a Juchist but from what I know about it I really like it.

@Firefly National Bolsheviks aren't Marxists despite getting a lot of influence from Marx

@Firefly Well, Marxists are better than capitalist scum

Well the people should serve the state and the state should serve the people. The problem with NK is the material conditions that have lead to it's situation. I believe if the North and South were united under Juche and not under an economic war by the west you'd have a near perfect state under the Kims.

@Firefly Anarchists are filthy larpers that attack fellow proles instead of attacking the system itself

Fair enough

People can say a lot about the DPRK but the alternative I think would be far worse if the Kims were overthrown. Civil war and millions of deaths.

True for the most part but I would call it preserving socialism as opposed to preserving communism in this case. Other than that I agree with you.

True my friend

Never heard of him @Deleted User

@Firefly Exactly

@Ｕｎｃｌｅ＿Ｊｏｅ＿ｗｉｔｈ＿ｃａｐｉｔａｌ＿Ｏ A house of tankies

@Ｕｎｃｌｅ＿Ｊｏｅ＿ｗｉｔｈ＿ｃａｐｉｔａｌ＿Ｏ I take it as a compliment when people call me a tankie

@Deleted User Not all forms of fascism are bad, National Syndicalism, Peronism, Strasserism, Ba'athism, etc... etc...

@Deleted User Technically they were all third position which falls under the fascist umbrella.

I know plenty of fascists who embrace pro-worker ideas

Fascism gets shit when it Turns into things like Hitlerism and Francoism

They're talking about a different type of "corporation" that quote is often misused

They're basically talking about guilds or syndicates

My definition of capitalism is very loose, it refers to the means of production. Fascism can exist as either a capitalist or socialist system depending on how the corporatism itself is organized. For example under national syndicalism you still have corporatism because collective industries are organized into guilds/corporations and you also still have managers but those managers are elected by the workers. With heads of natsyn corporations forming a great workers council.

^

I was a Marxist for a while before moving to a fascistic socialism

Well there were some socialist roots under people like Gottfried Feder but Hitler hijacked the movement

He was a demagogue

Yeah I've heard that too

The DDR actually offered Strasser a position in government, a lot of people don't know that.

@Deleted User In the strictest sense, I'm a national socialist but I don't use the term because it's been hijacked by retarded degenerates and Hitler worshipers

@Firefly hmmm

@Deleted User I've unironically heard people use that term

Ironically it was an "esoteric Himmlerist" who convinced me to become a NazBol

@carlton™ I'll never forgive him for turning on the Strasserites but this guy is weird, he's a Himmlerist but he thinks that Hitler wasn't socialist or Militarist enough. He also considers himself a NazBol while being a NatSoc. He's not a fan of Strasserites though because he considers them too democratic.

@carlton™ He's also actually well read on Marxist theory along with a lot of natsoc theory

>muh evil Venezuela

I don't bother with /leftypol/ anymore because the BO hates me for being a NazBol

I don't bother with 8chan in general anymore

but I was one of the original posters on /leftypol/

@Firefly My main IP is perma banned lol, I can use a VPN but it's not worth the effort

@Firefly Thanks by the way, I've read a bit of theory but I'm certainly no expert

kek

The discords are much better you don't feel the need to censor yourself to appeal to anarchobabies who ironically act more like statists

Wait, what split lol?

I was a mutualist for a while when I was younger. We all go through that phase

Sounds like a lot of the fascist servers I belong to

Internal politics are a bitch

I founded one of the big ones when I was a Strasserite, it's full of nazbols now

I'm in the unofficial leftypol discord

Had an interesting conversation with Bat'ko

@Deleted User I'm not a communist. I'm a national bolshevik that used to be a Strasserite. Basically as far left as a fascist can be while still being a fascist.

@Deleted User >Hitler

>Not my Fuherer

@Deleted User my bad kek

>vomits

>inb4 imperium

I founded the other big fascist discord

I'm still a mod there

Became a mod after I retired and there was a civil war

It's a long story m80

But long story short I had named a Ba'athist as my successor and (((someone))) demanded that a vote be held so that he could take over

That someone ended up rigging the vote

So we had to get an outsider to become admin

I'm not going to name any names but basically a Jew tried to take over the server. The server was connected to the plebbit "debate fascism" (still is). So we had to get the mods from that plebbit to become the admins and put all of the original mods of the discord on equal footing to stop the infighting on the mod team

I'm actually on good terms with the Jewish guy now but we used to be on really shit terms

Especially since I had named a ba'athist as my successor and I felt like he went behind my back

Define corporate

Corporate in the liberal sense, no

No

I was a corporatist as a Strasserist but we have a different definition of "corporation" than most people do. It refers to guild socialism.

I'd probably be in favor of heavily regulated cooperatives with profit sharing

Along with some state heavy industry

Essentially and they'd be worker owned

They wouldn't be businesses in the capitalist sense

The only "owners" of the state industry would be the head ministers, other than that you'd still have profit sharing

along with smaller "businesses" being less heavily regulated cooperatives