Message from @Revolutionary Nationalist
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Oh boy, a nazbol.
The best kind of bol
isn't nazbol just bol?
No
bolshevism isn't anarchist lol
hmm
Yeah but it's still internationalist.
@Revolutionary Nationalist Bolshevism can be Internationalist in one country.
I have no issue with that
explain national bolshevism
I would bet money you can't
Originally theorized by Ernst Niekisch, He saw the class struggle and national struggle as being one in the same
@Deleted User It is not a well defined ideology. It lacks theory.
He was the forefather to many national liberation movements ideologically
it lacks substance and base beliefs
@Firefly#9983 Read the Niekisch translation project
He spent time in prison under the Nazis until freed by the soviets and helped lay the ground work for a lot of the DDR
It is in a state like communists been before Marx. They have concept and coordinates, they have no idea what they are doing in the same time.
He was opposed to the fact that the Nazis were emulating the Italians instead of embracing their own Prussian spirit
national bolshevism isn't possible to describe accurately, because every national bolshevist believes in different things, they don't have any doctrine which they have to agree on, other than "lol we nationalist, but we also hate capitalists lmao"
@Deleted User Except I'm literally explaining some of the theory to you
@Revolutionary Nationalist I know, I've been there before.
I was a Strasserite before, I had read Germany tomorrow but after I've started discovering Niekisch I feel the economics line up more with mine @Firefly
@Revolutionary Nationalist what's your opinion on jews?
Culturally bourgeois
I see a lot of nazbol hate them, but a lot like them
Also the DPRK has done nothing wrong
@Revolutionary Nationalist I went from nazbol/strasser to Marx. This is the only scientific theory to my view. I see a lot of ways how to connect nationalism with Marxism. Idealism with science.
doesn't that make you jucheist? or a jucheist sympathizer?
@Firefly I went from libertarianism to Marx, to Tito, to Strasserism, to National Bolshevism. I was a Strasserist for like a year and a half before recently converting after talking to a friend of mine who convinced me to read Niekisch
But the connection of Marxism with idealism and nationalism shall be only through the authority of Marxists.
@Deleted User Sympathizer for sure, I'd have to read more on the ideology of Juche to really call myself a Juchist but from what I know about it I really like it.
@Firefly National Bolsheviks aren't Marxists despite getting a lot of influence from Marx
@Revolutionary Nationalist I know. But the next gen can be Marxists.
the reason Juche exists in the state it does is to keep the population from revolting, Kim is purposefully keeping the means of survival away from the people so they won't ever consider going against the state
@Firefly Well, Marxists are better than capitalist scum
Jucheism is the most anti-people state of government imaginable
I'd say even less people-friendly than anarchy
Well the people should serve the state and the state should serve the people. The problem with NK is the material conditions that have lead to it's situation. I believe if the North and South were united under Juche and not under an economic war by the west you'd have a near perfect state under the Kims.