Message from @Revolutionary Nationalist

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2017-07-18 19:55:18 UTC  

Fascism has some core ideas like the ones that are laid out in the doctrine

2017-07-18 19:55:37 UTC  

otherwise the policies are determined by the nation and its history

2017-07-18 19:55:45 UTC  

"Fascism could better be named state corporatism as it is the combining of state and corporate power"

2017-07-18 19:55:51 UTC  

fascism is inherently capitalistic

2017-07-18 19:56:08 UTC  

They're talking about a different type of "corporation" that quote is often misused

2017-07-18 19:56:17 UTC  

capitalism doesn't mean "economic idea that makes money"

2017-07-18 19:56:17 UTC  

They're basically talking about guilds or syndicates

2017-07-18 19:56:43 UTC  

capitalism is the existance of capital in a state as an economic idea

2017-07-18 19:56:49 UTC  

socialism is the non-existance of capital

2017-07-18 19:57:04 UTC  

exactly what i mean

2017-07-18 19:57:12 UTC  

everything is capitalism to some people

2017-07-18 19:58:03 UTC  

the economic planning in fascist nations usually centered around the idea of corporate responsibility

2017-07-18 19:58:55 UTC  

Fascism is self described as "qualitative Democracy" wheras most of the west uses a type of quantitative democracy

2017-07-18 19:59:10 UTC  

hey I'll be back in like an hour

2017-07-18 19:59:14 UTC  

bye

2017-07-18 19:59:15 UTC  

**Anti-Communism General**

2017-07-18 19:59:22 UTC  

it's just an analogy but it explains it a bit

2017-07-18 19:59:38 UTC  

My definition of capitalism is very loose, it refers to the means of production. Fascism can exist as either a capitalist or socialist system depending on how the corporatism itself is organized. For example under national syndicalism you still have corporatism because collective industries are organized into guilds/corporations and you also still have managers but those managers are elected by the workers. With heads of natsyn corporations forming a great workers council.

2017-07-18 20:00:18 UTC  

the Strasser brothers were murdered for being communist sympathisers, they wouldn't give up their dream and join the NDSAP

2017-07-18 20:00:41 UTC  

^

2017-07-18 20:00:42 UTC  

many Fascists were former Socialists

2017-07-18 20:01:04 UTC  

I was a Marxist for a while before moving to a fascistic socialism

2017-07-18 20:01:27 UTC  

National Socialist was called Socialism partly to attract socialists and convert them

2017-07-18 20:02:03 UTC  

Well there were some socialist roots under people like Gottfried Feder but Hitler hijacked the movement

2017-07-18 20:02:07 UTC  

He was a demagogue

2017-07-18 20:02:27 UTC  

Many Socialists just halfheartedly became Fascists, they were called beefstakes because they were red on the inside and brown on the outside

2017-07-18 20:02:37 UTC  

Yeah I've heard that too

2017-07-18 20:02:43 UTC  

I used to be national socialist

2017-07-18 20:02:53 UTC  

The DDR actually offered Strasser a position in government, a lot of people don't know that.

2017-07-18 20:03:15 UTC  

Hitler was too much of a demagogue, after his death there would have been too much of a power vacuum

2017-07-18 20:03:46 UTC  

@Deleted User In the strictest sense, I'm a national socialist but I don't use the term because it's been hijacked by retarded degenerates and Hitler worshipers

2017-07-18 20:04:17 UTC  

@Revolutionary Nationalist I bet you're an esoteric hitlerist lmfao

2017-07-18 20:04:37 UTC  
2017-07-18 20:04:41 UTC  

I tend to dislike a lot of National Socialists, a lot go too far and become complete partisans

2017-07-18 20:04:46 UTC  

@Deleted User I've unironically heard people use that term

2017-07-18 20:04:51 UTC  

same

2017-07-18 20:05:00 UTC  

Esoteric hitlerists are very real and quite common

2017-07-18 20:05:00 UTC  

Ironically it was an "esoteric Himmlerist" who convinced me to become a NazBol

2017-07-18 20:05:03 UTC  

esoteric hitlerism is technically a religion