Message from @Revolutionary Nationalist
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Fascism was created by socialists in part as a replacement of Communism
Fascism gets shit when it Turns into things like Hitlerism and Francoism
Fascism has some core ideas like the ones that are laid out in the doctrine
otherwise the policies are determined by the nation and its history
"Fascism could better be named state corporatism as it is the combining of state and corporate power"
fascism is inherently capitalistic
They're talking about a different type of "corporation" that quote is often misused
capitalism doesn't mean "economic idea that makes money"
They're basically talking about guilds or syndicates
capitalism is the existance of capital in a state as an economic idea
socialism is the non-existance of capital
exactly what i mean
everything is capitalism to some people
the economic planning in fascist nations usually centered around the idea of corporate responsibility
Fascism is self described as "qualitative Democracy" wheras most of the west uses a type of quantitative democracy
hey I'll be back in like an hour
bye
**Anti-Communism General**
it's just an analogy but it explains it a bit
My definition of capitalism is very loose, it refers to the means of production. Fascism can exist as either a capitalist or socialist system depending on how the corporatism itself is organized. For example under national syndicalism you still have corporatism because collective industries are organized into guilds/corporations and you also still have managers but those managers are elected by the workers. With heads of natsyn corporations forming a great workers council.
the Strasser brothers were murdered for being communist sympathisers, they wouldn't give up their dream and join the NDSAP
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many Fascists were former Socialists
I was a Marxist for a while before moving to a fascistic socialism
National Socialist was called Socialism partly to attract socialists and convert them
Well there were some socialist roots under people like Gottfried Feder but Hitler hijacked the movement
He was a demagogue
Many Socialists just halfheartedly became Fascists, they were called beefstakes because they were red on the inside and brown on the outside
Yeah I've heard that too
I used to be national socialist
The DDR actually offered Strasser a position in government, a lot of people don't know that.
Hitler was too much of a demagogue, after his death there would have been too much of a power vacuum
@Deleted User In the strictest sense, I'm a national socialist but I don't use the term because it's been hijacked by retarded degenerates and Hitler worshipers
@Revolutionary Nationalist I bet you're an esoteric hitlerist lmfao
@Firefly hmmm
I tend to dislike a lot of National Socialists, a lot go too far and become complete partisans
@Deleted User I've unironically heard people use that term
same
Esoteric hitlerists are very real and quite common